Do you stay at the inns around Sundren?

[Dark presence]

I have to point out that resting for spells is not the same as sleeping. Any penalties for "sleeping" outdoors really doesn't take into account the fact that there is no need to sleep to regain spells. Honestly I don't have a problem with believing that characters go to sleep when they log off. I don't RP sleeping very often. Its well...boring.

[Imbrifer]

I agree with Lollercide - if you want players to go to Inns, make them give benefits like .pray-ing at a holy site.

Alternatively, make an Inn that is better than Exigo, but follows the same 'rules' (easy access, merchants nearby, etc.)

Honestly, I don't like the idea of splitting up the players - you dont want druids going to the glade, or clerics/paladins to the temples - because then people don't get together as much. Exigo has an excellent (if not ideal) meeting place for all classes, even if you get rained on.

[Jaeram]

Yeah, I think accessibility is the real issue for an inn than anything. People like to role play the fun parts and try to forget the dull parts (which is probably why combat is seems like such an important element in D&D and NWN). It's like realistically if it was pouring down rain outside, yes I would seek an inn, but then I'd actually be feeling the rain as a nuiscense (I spelled that wrong). In the game that rain doesn't actually bother me at all, but spending a few minutes going 'click click click click' through a city I've been through plenty of times, just to reach the inn, kind of does.

I like the exigo personally, and Orrick normally returns to the militia camp near Viridale to 'sleep'. Which makes sense for him.

Edit : Since this topic came up I've been seeing more players in the taverns and inns when I do a player search lol, maybe it's fixing itself.

[sparkeh]

I still think having a tavern accessible from the world map will greatly encourage people to meet there.

[Machiavelli]

This is only vaguely on topic I know... but speaking as a DM, I hates the Exigo post (it's a nightmare of a place to start events from for a whole gaggle of reasons so I mostly just don't bother!). I fully understand why people go there though, so no need to explain. That's all

[Skro]

Personally I don't use many times the inn because if I can rest on a trading post, campfire, etc. It's more practical than walk a long distance to get on the Inn, pay a room, go upstairs and rest.
Also, the use of a storage doesn't convince me, because If Im going to adventuring to any place and get the loot or treasure, I don't keep it for much time than a week or few hours (depending on the item rarity) and I sell it and use the gold to buy consumable items like potions, bandages and scrolls.

Another thing is about the Hardcore RP. Let's think:
Im an adventurer, and I spent one week on dungeon crawling, slaying beast, eventually I will be covered in mud, sweat and blood, also my weapons will be damaged and covered with blood.
It's not necessary to be a genius to understand the enviroment, and If I go to the city covered with the marks of a massive murder (doesn't matter if was PC or NPC) and looking like a beggar, the guards will stop me to make some questions about the blood and my bags full of gold and items.
Maybe, If Im using a good character, doesn't matter to atract a bit of attention, any Paladin NPC may detect my alignment and discover no evil in me. Also applies to a neutral character, but the Paladin attention may be more over my character if he/she doesn't incline to the good.

So, If Im going to adventuring forth, my character always borrows some cleaning implements (Soap, Towels, etc.), check my weapons, and go.
Then, when I finish the adventure, my character takes a bath on a near lake or waterfall, clean his/her weapons, eats and rest on a tent, and then starts to travel to the city to sell and resupply him/her.

That's (for me) the spirit of the adventurer, leaving away the luxury and comfort in the search of a treasure or on a quest for saving the world. The reward comes in the end, when the treasure is on the backpack and the evil guy is dead.

[Jaeram]

I still think having a tavern accessible from the world map will greatly encourage people to meet there.

If there was a tavern accessible from the world map... I would probably go there. I think you're right.

[Saulus]

Four lanterns basically is.

[paularius]

while were at it why dont we add 'eating' and 'drinking' as being nessiary to. theres realisim and then theres just being tedious.

would there be enough rooms in the inns for every body? thers 3 - 4 rooms in each inn what happs when one inn is full? we have to go running around the other inns to rent a room before soem one else gets there? and the fact that rooms can be held for days means its going to be hard to find a free one.

also what happens to your storage if you dont make it back to your room in time to rebook? wil lthe next owner get all your stuff? may be better to add a storage vault to the bank temple where you can open an account for a fee, then if you fail to keep up the rent your storage is frozen till you do pay. or the money is taken directly out of your account to keep it open.

if your looking for away to get people to go to the taverns and city more instead of hanging around the camps then i got an idea, (saulus and the dm's might not like it)
you have it set to hand out 30 exp every 20 mins when not fighting. why not reduce that if your out side in the wilds or in the trading post to 10, then make it 20 when in the city and then 30 when in the taverns and temples. 10, 20, 30 being a rough guess. you can change the values depending on the city to. thats one way to assure people will spend more time in the city and buildings. and for those chars that dont like the city theres 3 other towns and the druids/ranger outposts for them. (i know you said your never changing the exp system but i thought it might be a good idea and it dont give out any extra exp than what you give already.)

on a side note i'd like to say sorry i havnt been on . i got exams in 2 months and i only really have time to check the forums.

[Silas North]

I almost always stay at the Sundren Comfort. Room 3.

[Mighty_Draco]

I like the idea of making an inn directly accessible through the world map. People don't usually go to inns because people aren't in inns very often. The trading post sees high traffic because of trading, so people are more likely to run into other people passing by. I don't usually go to inns unless it's organized by a group already at the trading post. The best way I can see to get people to go to an inn would be to put up a shop inside it with decent prices so that people are more inclined to go to.

The trading post has an easily accessed rest point and shops, if an inn was to offer the same things, then it would probably get as much traffic.

[Saulus]

while were at it why dont we add 'eating' and 'drinking' as being nessiary to. theres realisim and then theres just being tedious.

Already stated we would never do this.

would there be enough rooms in the inns for every body? thers 3 - 4 rooms in each inn what happs when one inn is full? we have to go running around the other inns to rent a room before soem one else gets there? and the fact that rooms can be held for days means its going to be hard to find a free one.

Sundren is never going to run out of free rooms to stay unless I start handing out a +3 item rental with every room. Even Four Lanterns has tons of rooms alone.

also what happens to your storage if you dont make it back to your room in time to rebook? wil lthe next owner get all your stuff? may be better to add a storage vault to the bank temple where you can open an account for a fee, then if you fail to keep up the rent your storage is frozen till you do pay. or the money is taken directly out of your account to keep it open.

Well I made all the inn storage personal user storage (which is different from persistent storage I employ elsewhere). What this means is that whenever you open the chest you see your own personal storage, and when someone else opens it they see theirs. So even if you rented a room in a completely different inn you could open that chest and still see your stuff, even if you hadn't had a room in weeks.

if your looking for away to get people to go to the taverns and city more instead of hanging around the camps then i got an idea, (saulus and the dm's might not like it)
you have it set to hand out 30 exp every 20 mins when not fighting. why not reduce that if your out side in the wilds or in the trading post to 10, then make it 20 when in the city and then 30 when in the taverns and temples. 10, 20, 30 being a rough guess. you can change the values depending on the city to. thats one way to assure people will spend more time in the city and buildings. and for those chars that dont like the city theres 3 other towns and the druids/ranger outposts for them. (i know you said your never changing the exp system but i thought it might be a good idea and it dont give out any extra exp than what you give already.)

on a side note i'd like to say sorry i havnt been on . i got exams in 2 months and i only really have time to check the forums.

And really the rest of that is a bit drastic. I'm only looking for reasons why people don't use them as much, it's easy to assume if I hand out nice freebies people will use the more often, thats not my purpose. My purpose is to make them into a useful utility? Why? Well that's part of what I'm still working out, storage and a rest area are one thing.

And no, I'm not going to invent new problems for players that using inns will solve, because that's not enhancing the gameplay, that's taking away from it. I've already made certain respects of the NWN engine difficult enough for my standards. People form strong character relationships when they don't have the option to solo and easily succeed. Desperation breeds determination and it's those strong traits that I seek to draw out of people from a gameplay perspective.

Not mundane campfire chatter where everyone is level 20 and level 9 spells are about as common as wearing a hat instead of a helmet.

[Peridan]

Wait...there are level 9 spells in this game? I haven't played the O.C. so I wouldn't know =)

[cmosier]

I use the Inns and wouldn't mind getting a permanent room and paying rent.

[Saulus]

I use the Inns and wouldn't mind getting a permanent room and paying rent.

It may very likely happen one day (I like the idea and have thought about it before), but at the moment we have plenty of great projects slated for Sundren.