Dwarven speech

[Product of Void]

Bah play a dwarf who only speaks dwarven there you go

[Thief Of Navarre]

Yeah tolkien went there! I loved the hobbit, LOTR, Unfinished tales and the Silmarion personally: Its not everyone's style of writing of course!

He certainly seems responsible for most fantasy conventions

[Biohazard89]

I believe its a common misunderstanding around the Deities...you dont HAVE to be their exact alignment in order to follow them..you just have to be neutral, good, evil, depening on the deity ofcourse.


The issue around dwarven accent...well i for one think it adds a little flavor to the characters because it resembles that the dwarves still dont have or want to rid their own language completely when they are talking to humans, elves, etc. But i also think it should have been ancient norse since dwarves are mythical beings from the Norse Mythology but i dont believe anyone of us would be able type ancient norse accentwise....(and im a Dane so i would know hehe..maybe a norwegian would)

The reason Dwarves are usually Lawful is because most Dwarven clans have strict Codes of honor that all dwarves from that clan follow rigouresly. It doesnt mean they have to follow Human laws...but they always follow their own clan laws and codes. It is also because Dwarves arnt as diverse or Freeminded as elves and humans..they are usually slow to trust others, not as jesting as others, stern honorbound kind of type.

People that play dwarves who like to get drunk and fight a barbrawl are imo doing it because they have that impression of dwarves...its not entirely wrong either but its not as extreme as some people play it to be.
Dwarves like to get drunk yes...but in general they dont want to start meaningless fights and espeacially not drunk where their senses have been dulled to the point where they cant even walk properly anymore.

But then again...dwarves are diverse though not as much as humans and elves. Which is why there may be Chaotic dwarves..these are the kind of dwarves that should slignment wise go get drunk and have a barbrawl because they feel like it...thats what chaotic is all about..doing what you feel like on impulsively following your own way when you feel like it.


Anyway thats my two cents..hope you could use it.

[c2k]

*Regarding Dwarves and drunken barbrawls.

Even Lawful dwarves can get in drunken bar brawls very easily. Dwarven code is to uphold the honor of the dwarves and if someone slanders it or yourself, it be a good reason to throw down in defense of the clan.

[Azulfae]

Being lawful depends on what your culture or religion believes is the law.

Dwarves seem to kick every ones arse who poke a finger at them and that is because their law is such.

A regement of dwarves going into battle is a highly organised and diciplined group and will fearlessly hold a line whatever it takes. As such they give the impression of being a crazy bunch of blood hungry suicidal maniacs by everyone who turned tail and fled when things got too dangerous.

With regards to dwarven accents I never particularly felt they had a strictly scottish accent but more of a general old fashioned Celtic accent, the kind of accent that Cornish, Welsh, Northern and Scottish accents were all derived from.

I've always tried to RP dwarves as talking something mildly between all 4 but it seems in recent years a lot of people just go for a bizarre and uncomprehendable version that started somewhere along the lines of aiming to be a scottish accent.

I hate to say but like all brits I have to blame the americans :P

Like all races though why do you have to talk in a specific accent. I know an indian man from Liverpool who has that accent, I myself speak a strange blend of Devonshire/Cockney since living in london and growing up in the westcountry and my wife is from Bangladesh but speaks with a very non descript middle english accent. Her brother sounds american though since he learned english from an american teacher in bangladesh before coming here.

A dwarf can talk with or without an accent, there is nothing that says you can't play your dwarf how you want.

[Product of Void]

Egads alignments...How I hate thee.

Get one thing in your mind about lawful and laws. They have NOTHING to do with each other. A Lawful Good paladin will not adhere to the laws of Drow if some how stuck in their society and allowed to live.

Dwarves are lawful because they are Organized, Nit picky in details, and full of clan pride.

Elves are Chaotic because they are free spirited, Their concerns dwell upon things that are long term or affects their home, With a long life span there is plenty of time to do things or put off doing things.

Gnomes are chaotic due to being utterly insane :P

Alignments deal with how the charactor reasons the world, thinks, and acts. Has Zero to do with civilized law, obeying or respecting it.


As for the orginal topic. Dwarven dialect in itself is harsh that will typically leave a human with a sore throat after speaking it awhile. So you figure some Tones or letters would be a bit more rough or loud. As for scottish I could see that with dwarves although they would convert bag-pipes into some weapon, though the chamber toss(sp?) would remain the same or be modified to gnome/goblin toss.

Also if your dwarven accent is diffferent then another players accent just could be a way to rp different clans meeting as well.

[Azulfae]

Dude. What is your beef with gnomes?

[Product of Void]

Dude. What is your beef with gnomes?

hating gnomes started with nwn1 joke.

Then they got the 3.0 change of perfered class bard.

then...well this happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqFPujRZWo

Gnomes used to be so cool like tinker gnomes...*sigh*

[Thief Of Navarre]

Meh 4e seems too much like World of Warcraft to me imho!
I never liked gnomes till I knew they were not going to be a PC race anymore, I cryed that night...

So basically you cant play 4E unless your going to be an demon/angel/hellspawn/Haladrin/cloud giant/doppleganger? How things have changed..

*goes to roll a dwarven Death Knight*

[Verrath]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...sAreAllTheSame
(to steer back towards dwarves hehe)

[Azulfae]

woah woah woah hold up on the dwarves!

Gnomes are not a PC race anymore but tieflings are! What the fandango!

Does anyone actually play 4ed anyway?
I have never met anyone who plays 4th edition D&D, not a single person. Everyone I know goes on about how they finally just managed to get all the 3.5 manuals and now they are actually gonna play it, 4th can wait a respectable amount of time thankyou very much. We are in the middle of a recession here.

sh**.

Alright carry on about dwarves and their stupid voices.

[Thief Of Navarre]

Heh, that was pretty good Verrath. Ill keep that bookmarked for later dwarf bashing

[gbbishop]

speaking as/for a dwarf/dwarves. i have many different personalities i try to portray. it's hard to do this with only text...

so yeah, sum of moi kinfolk talk loike 'is. but some of them are very sophisticated and complex. but the stereo typical dwarf is typically a poor english speaker.... it's not their native tongue. and they probly don't put as much effort in learning the language as say... dem pointa ear'd folk.

personally i love it when i say something and nobody but the other dwarves understand what im saying... it just seems right ya know.

[Phantom Lamb]

4E note--

Gnomes are a playable race again. They were added in the second players handbook along with halforcs and some others. Additionally, druids, bards, and barbarians have returned. Just wait for the books

[Biohazard89]

Egads alignments...How I hate thee.

Get one thing in your mind about lawful and laws. They have NOTHING to do with each other. A Lawful Good paladin will not adhere to the laws of Drow if some how stuck in their society and allowed to live.

Dwarves are lawful because they are Organized, Nit picky in details, and full of clan pride.

Elves are Chaotic because they are free spirited, Their concerns dwell upon things that are long term or affects their home, With a long life span there is plenty of time to do things or put off doing things.

Gnomes are chaotic due to being utterly insane :P

Alignments deal with how the charactor reasons the world, thinks, and acts. Has Zero to do with civilized law, obeying or respecting it.


As for the orginal topic. Dwarven dialect in itself is harsh that will typically leave a human with a sore throat after speaking it awhile. So you figure some Tones or letters would be a bit more rough or loud. As for scottish I could see that with dwarves although they would convert bag-pipes into some weapon, though the chamber toss(sp?) would remain the same or be modified to gnome/goblin toss.

Also if your dwarven accent is diffferent then another players accent just could be a way to rp different clans meeting as well.

My point exactly.