Alignment/Dieity

[Cade]

Is there any talk of allowing allignment change? Can one already do it? This would of course be strickly RP based.

Lets say for example Cade wanted to join the Triumverait and did, but then was asked by a Hand of Bane to join them... He very well could not take the Prestige class if he wanted because his alignment (in this case CN) doesn't allow him to.

On further thought, I just looked at the requirements for Dreadmaster of Bane, and it says I have to worship Bane...

If one were to select Bane as their dieity of choice at character roll, and did NOT ever become a Dreadmaster through some reason or another, then would that have all been for naught?

What if the character is forced to worship someone or die? If the orcs take Cade hostage (which would be cool) and force him to worship Grummsh or be boiled, he most deffenatly would worship Grummsh.

Knowing Cade, he would have no problem becoming an eye of Grummsh.
But that would require a Dieity and Alignment change.

Does any of that make sence?

[Leaving Hope]

Is there any talk of allowing allignment change? Can one already do it? This would of course be strickly RP based.

Alignments are changed by DMs. They may be changed by dialogue with NPCs and/or quest choices in the future.

I modify alignments on a regular basis. Just yesterday, ________ tried to incite a riot and I bumped them chaotic. If a DM witnesses you acting a certain way, your alignment will be modified if applicable. I think if you asked around you'd hear from a lot of people who have gotten alignment shifts.

That said, it does help to give DMs a friendly head's up.

Lets say for example Cade wanted to join the Triumverait and did, but then was asked by a Hand of Bane to join them... He very well could not take the Prestige class if he wanted because his alignment (in this case CN) doesn't allow him to.

Factions typically surround themselves with like minds who share common philosophies. If you want to join the Triumvirate, you will very likely need to impress upon them your nature fits their belief structure. It's the same with the Banites.

Yes, some classes have alignment and deity restrictions. No, you can't take that class if you don't meet the restrictions.

What if the character is forced to worship someone or die? If the orcs take Cade hostage (which would be cool) and force him to worship Grummsh or be boiled, he most deffenatly would worship Grummsh.

Knowing Cade, he would have no problem becoming an eye of Grummsh.
But that would require a Dieity and Alignment change.

Most likely, they should die. You can't force someone easily to change their belief structure if it's truly important to them--atleast, not quickly. Yes, they can be corrupted, or saved, or even taught but things like that take time. Anyone who changes faiths like clothes probably wouldn't have much support from their deity anyway.

[Vichtor]

I got bumped to evil for poisoning the well in the Bandit hideout in Aquor. It was only a mild poison!

[Deathmage]

Following on to this topic, can DMs actually modify our deity fields? Suppose if I wanted to RP a character who goes through a crisis and loses faith in his God and finds a new one, can I do that?

[Leaving Hope]

Following on to this topic, can DMs actually modify our deity fields? Suppose if I wanted to RP a character who goes through a crisis and loses faith in his God and finds a new one, can I do that?

Yes, we can.

[wangxiuming]

Mach helped me change my deity from Corellon to Faithless.

[Phantom Lamb]

One note to tack on--we won't grant alignment changes in most cases strictly for the purpose of getting a specific class.

[Leaving Hope]

One note to tack on--we won't grant alignment changes in most cases strictly for the purpose of getting a specific class.

Excellent point.

[Dark presence]

Anyone who changes faiths like clothes probably wouldn't have much support from their deity anyway.

Well I can't say I'd agree with that point. The Forgotten Realms are supposed to be a polytheistic place. So someone should be worshipping most of the gods most of the time. Theres no such thing as "I follow Torm, so I don't/won't pray to Waukeen." Evil gods typically get plenty of worship from people out of fear and appeasement. And the gods know this too, they shouldn't start dropping their clerics and other servants just because they are praying to another god.

[Lothoir]

However on that note, people who do go about changing their patron deities all willy-nilly are judged as False, and spend an eternity of being a street-sweeper in the city of the dead.

[sharringtonm]

Well like it or not.. Neverwinter Nights is a one god for one PC engine. It's unfortunate that not everything can be brought over from PNP, but poly-theistic worship isn't going to happen.
You can RP your praying to 20 gods.. but when it comes down to the game mechanics.. you have only one god at a time. And that's not gonna change. Sorry.

People may want to play stormlords or whatever and not follow the gods necessary.. but to be honest.. those PrCs are rewards for those that do follow the gods. No one is entitled to a PrC. They are earned. And in some cases earning them involves following a specific god. Here on Sundren.. you need the god.

Now if you all want to debate how things should be with gods (in your opinions), I encourage you to do so... over in the off topic thread.

[Caspian]

Also, any caster who uses a spell with an "Evil" indicator will experience an alignment shift toward evil. It doesn't work the other way though. Once you fall, you fall.

[sharringtonm]

Also, any caster who uses a spell with an "Evil" indicator will experience an alignment shift toward evil. It doesn't work the other way though. Once you fall, you fall.

Your talking about PNP right? Cause thats not true on Sundren. We don't make it that easy for a 3 Paladin / 1 sorc (with evil spells)/ to fall and take Black guard levels for a reason.

[DurinRustbeard]

I had posted in the bugs forum a few days ago.. i think.. That my PC Gael Ironhide's deity changed when i leveled to lvl4 I had already purchased the Clanggadin coin, and I still have it, but now my coin says Moradin doesnt answer my prayer. Can someone change my deity back to Clanggadin plz? Moradin is a fine god that Gael respects, but hes more suited for Clanggadin, and thats who i chose for him to follow when i made him.. some weird level bug changed it.. Oh, and my character sheet shows moradin now too.. The coin is still named to be for clanggadin.

[Caspian]

Your talking about PNP right? Cause thats not true on Sundren. We don't make it that easy for a 3 Paladin / 1 sorc (with evil spells)/ to fall and take Black guard levels for a reason.

For a Pally, no. But any cleric has a handful of spells with the "Evil" indicator. Every time an "Evil" spell is cast it shifts your alignment 1 point toward evil. ie, Dance of Ruin, Darkbolt, etc.