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Originally Posted by serjester
So my character is minding his own business, loitering (and perhaps occasionally cutting a purse-string), in the Exigo Trading Post. All of a sudden a halfling rogue, we'll call him "Dan", uncloaks right behind my character and beats him into submission with his knobby little halfling fists. After sneak attacking my character into unconsciousness (I am level 3), my character stands up and is berated with a barrage of interrogative insults and accusations. "Dan" presumes my character to be a member of the Mask of Shar? WTF? No, I am not now nor have ever been a member of the Communist Party -- or the Mask of Shar for that matter. Can't a thief make an honest living stealing from others without being accused of grand conspiracies?
Response by Shad:
In the first place, this doesn't belong here, why you posted it here god only knows. In the second place, SerJester has 2 characters I know of, one named "Commoner" and one named "Merchant" he dresses them as commoners and merchants and uses his names as a metagaming disguise so he can pickpocket people. IMHO, he's a jerk, these characters should be deleted, and his account banned for some period of time.
Shad
Response by me::
In regard to etiquette, I don't think we need to make this personal. You're saying the player, aka. me, is a jerk? You don't even know me. And even if you did, that's not particularly constructive.
Secondly, I did give it some consideration whether or not it was in violation of the rule or even the spirit of Sundren to have a character disguised as a Commoner. I saw a girl selling newspapers who had that as her name, so I felt vindicated it was legit.
I would argue that it's not "metagaming" but is actually in the spirit of the rogue pickpocket: the purpose of pickpocketing is to remain inconspicuous -- to blend in with one's surroundings. And pickpocketing itself is a rogue class skill. It's not violation of NWN2 but the utilization of skill that the game gives you. I personally think having a pickpocket lurking around a trading post from time to time makes things most interesting (and it's note like one's "take" is that great: 25 gps, and a very poor success rate, which leads many to call the skill "broken"). I also have normal characters whom I roleplay with, and put a lot of thought and effort into. I have never used "merchant" for anything -- only commoner.
Now to argue that "Dan" was justified in his attack on an unarmed and stationary opponent because, after the fact, you deciphered that this "Commoner" character was a pickpocket does not justify Dan's actions, since these were not his reasons at the time.
Lastly, I apologize for posting in the wrong place. I thought it was at least tangentially related to the subject of disguises and the Mask of Shar and accusations regarind the latter.
Okay, really lastly: I will delete Commoner and Merchant from my profile, as I think it's better to use a more colorful character if I ever choose to try out the pickpocketing racket again. I welcome other's opinions on the matter, just out of curiousity, if they care to share.
Originally Posted by serjester
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So my character is minding his own business, loitering (and perhaps occasionally cutting a purse-string), in the Exigo Trading Post. All of a sudden a halfling rogue, we'll call him "Dan", uncloaks right behind my character and beats him into submission with his knobby little halfling fists. After sneak attacking my character into unconsciousness (I am level 3), my character stands up and is berated with a barrage of interrogative insults and accusations. "Dan" presumes my character to be a member of the Mask of Shar? WTF? No, I am not now nor have ever been a member of the Communist Party -- or the Mask of Shar for that matter. Can't a thief make an honest living stealing from others without being accused of grand conspiracies?
Response by Shad:
In the first place, this doesn't belong here, why you posted it here god only knows. In the second place, SerJester has 2 characters I know of, one named "Commoner" and one named "Merchant" he dresses them as commoners and merchants and uses his names as a metagaming disguise so he can pickpocket people. IMHO, he's a jerk, these characters should be deleted, and his account banned for some period of time.
Shad
Response by me::
In regard to etiquette, I don't think we need to make this personal. You're saying the player, aka. me, is a jerk? You don't even know me. And even if you did, that's not particularly constructive.
Secondly, I did give it some consideration whether or not it was in violation of the rule or even the spirit of Sundren to have a character disguised as a Commoner. I saw a girl selling newspapers who had that as her name, so I felt vindicated it was legit.
I would argue that it's not "metagaming" but is actually in the spirit of the rogue pickpocket: the purpose of pickpocketing is to remain inconspicuous -- to blend in with one's surroundings. And pickpocketing itself is a rogue class skill. It's not violation of NWN2 but the utilization of skill that the game gives you. I personally think having a pickpocket lurking around a trading post from time to time makes things most interesting (and it's note like one's "take" is that great: 25 gps, and a very poor success rate, which leads many to call the skill "broken"). I also have normal characters whom I roleplay with, and put a lot of thought and effort into. I have never used "merchant" for anything -- only commoner.
Now to argue that "Dan" was justified in his attack on an unarmed and stationary opponent because, after the fact, you deciphered that this "Commoner" character was a pickpocket does not justify Dan's actions, since these were not his reasons at the time.
Lastly, I apologize for posting in the wrong place. I thought it was at least tangentially related to the subject of disguises and the Mask of Shar and accusations regarind the latter.
Okay, really lastly: I will delete Commoner and Merchant from my profile, as I think it's better to use a more colorful character if I ever choose to try out the pickpocketing racket again. I welcome other's opinions on the matter, just out of curiousity, if they care to share.
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