Unconcious and Regeration

[sonuvalich]

This is a horrible example

Yes, it is.

[Lugwy]

I'd imagine in the case of said example, if the bullet wasn't extracted or forced out of the wound while regenerating, it'd remain in there and hinder the regenerating process. Furthermore, in the process that even with regenerating, you were beaten down to unconsciousness, it'll take time to heal yourself enough to get back up. See trolls, except slower.

Play to have fun, and don't let something like regen cause quibbles.

[bipolar bear]

I'd imagine in the case of said example, if the bullet wasn't extracted or forced out of the wound while regenerating, it'd remain in there and hinder the regenerating process. Furthermore, in the process that even with regenerating, you were beaten down to unconsciousness, it'll take time to heal yourself enough to get back up. See trolls, except slower.

Play to have fun, and don't let something like regen cause quibbles.

im gonna go full nerd on this.


1. a lead bullet would not penetrate an admantiuim skull (in marvel admantium is indestructible).
2 the injury that wolverine acquired is called a Coup contrecoup injury. it is when due to a sudden force causes your brain to move forward and stop suddenly. your brain dosnt stop moving and "sloshes" tearing the hell out of all the connective tissue in your head around in your skull with no visiable damage to your outer skull. it happens all the time in car accidents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_contrecoup_injury


on another note the human heart and the central nervous system are un able to regenerate, unlike your skin or liver.

so in regards to sundren regeneration I cant say its all that different. your body my heal on its own, but if you get your head bashed around you may want to take a while to try and recover.. magic ring or not.

[Lugwy]

I'd be behind regenerating characters staying down because they got concussed.

[Mishtakob]

To go full nerd on this would be to state that technically, by D&D rules you can keep hitting a person for subdual/nonlethal damage without dealing them any viable HP damage even after they are unconscious. This damage is regenerated the same way as regular HP through fast healing, and stacks with itself, so you can literally pummel someone with fast healing into three weeks worth of subdual damage by the rules.

That, however, would be silly, because if someone spends an hour caving your forehead in with a golfclub to make sure you stay down, and then you just wake up with a mild headache makes no sense (as these rules apply equally for regular guys and regenerating folks). Hardcoded rules such as those in base D&D and those on the server can only go so far. I say, use common sense and common courtesy for fellow RPers.

[thaelis]

I think fairness comes before reality. If you've been beaten you're beaten. Besides this, there is a good argument that your waking state has nothing to do with your physical wounds. Does the ring make you immune to Sleep? Hold? Charm? Stun?

[Vladadier]

No... In Anoshs case he is elf and monk... So immune to sleep, and Charm... Not sure about stun. Hold rarely works due to his SR

[Clangeddin]

Just ask the person you've subdued to remove the rings in a tell?

[Aniril_Telin]

We do offer a subdual tool for players, where losing brings you to 1HP instead of death. This tool is meant to be used in-character--only use it if you do not mean to kill the person. Subdued players must role play that they are knocked unconscious by the victor unless otherwise agreed on by all involved. Subdued players must allow the victor to perform actions freely to their unconscious selves, including robbery and carrying their body somewhere else.

As per the wiki this is the rule, and always has been, when you are beaten you are beaten until the victor is done with you.

[Farmboy2003]

No... In Anoshs case he is elf and monk... So immune to sleep, and Charm... Not sure about stun. Hold rarely works due to his SR

I'm sorry but that statement is a bit clouded, but it irks me. Elves are immune to magical sleep. They don't need to sleep. They CAN sleep, and they DO sleep occasionally. That does not work with being knocked out, as it is another thing completely.

if you're beaten, you're beaten. How you rp it is up to you, but I would be very dissapointed if you used regeneration to escape a situation where you lost fairly. You could rp that you're fully healed when you wake up, and start over but that would be bad form I think.

[BubbaCornbread]

I agree with Farmboy, if you are beaten down, take the lumps and lay there and take the abuse. If not, then next time they should kill you instead of subdual, then you can use your regen rings and such in the fugue, IMO.

Just take the beat down, let them give you a wood shampoo and a boot party, lay there and listen to their vitriol, and then when it is over, come up with ways you can RP revenge.

[Valhalla]

Eh, no hard feelings over it. No one on either side lost anything of value. Everyone knows the rule now and it won't happen again. It was some pretty fun RP yesterday, overall, and I think that's the important thing here.

[Vladadier]

Yea no hard feelings. I accept that I screwed up and I apologize to the group that subdued me.

[GodBeastX]

If you guys need a hardline rule, regeneration changes nothing. I coded in subdual so that people didn't have to die in PVP. If you get beaten this way, with regen or otherwise, you are being beaten too much for regen to matter and fall unconscious.

Other engines that aren't D&D handle unconsciousness much better in modeling the human nature of unconscious. I'll take a cue from them and it means you pretty much are out, even if the wound is gone.

[BubbaCornbread]

Body blow, body blow, Knockout!

Brings back memories of an old, old game.

What GBX says; you are out for the count.