Congratz!

[ManUtd4Ever]

I started keeping track of the number of players 19th level and higher and since last week...

Two of us made 20th level this week - Congratz!!

One of us made 21st level this week - Well done!!

Cheers

[Saulus]

Lots of epic level PCs hanging around... guess we better open up the Abyss soon so they will have a challenge.

[Yevelian]

I have one close to 21, the rest may happen years from now. :P

[ManUtd4Ever]

Lots of epic level PCs hanging around... guess we better open up the Abyss soon so they will have a challenge.

This... would be awesome! Is it only 21st and above, or can a 20th level jump in to get the chance to become Epic?

[GodBeastX]

Epic places will be varying difficulties of 20+.

Big risks for big rewards though. So enter at own risk will be our catch phrase We're still hammering out the mechanics of it all.

[Saulus]

The Abyss will be a level 20 party area, epics will still find a challenge and level 20s should be at home with a good group.

Getting to the Abyss will only be possible once per day, and will require a crafting component in use with a ritual (it shouldn't be too hard to get, the 1/day will be the main mechanism to prevent copious grinding and to prevent the epicness of the Abyss becoming common).

Also while it is still being discussed internally, death in the Abyss will likely set your vitality to its limit, so essentially one more death after that and it's game over (unless you have a signus).

For all these dangers, the Abyss will have the most epic loot droppable by encounters on the server. People will make the journey when they see what drops.

[Farmboy2003]

But despite all this, xp will still be capped to dm-given only for those lvl 20+?

Sounds great though. Is it the actual lore abyss we're talking about here, or is it just something the locals call it?

[Saulus]

The Abyss of legend, so dig out your source books. It's unlikely we will let the XP from the spawns level you past 20, but we could change our stance on this.

[Dave Fritz]

It's unlikely we will let the XP from the spawns level you past 20, but we could change our stance on this.

Speaking as one who plays at times when DMs are rarely on-line, please reconsider the stance. Not that I expect to be able to take advantage any time soon, but I think in the light of the results of the most recent poll, this could be one of the things folks could do when DMs aren't around.

If this is better placed as a suggestion, please move it to that forum.

[Snowmane]

Sounds like a great way for Maneae to get her soul back . . . *cough cough* Don't you think GBX

[Saulus]

Even for the people who play all the time, the highest level PC is like 23.

If we make people get XP from spawns, there will be dozens of level 30s running around... not something we want.

[Farmboy2003]

Thanks for the clarification as always. I did see some lvl 30 toons in the player database tool, but I reckon those are DM avatars

[Saulus]

Thanks for the clarification as always. I did see some lvl 30 toons in the player database tool, but I reckon those are DM avatars

Probably every level 30 Pc in the stats is me mucking around (or GBX), the last time I even played a PC character on Sundren was at least 2 years ago.

[wangxiuming]

I like the no Xp after level 20 mechanic ... And I'll just say that it took Alyrian 5 real time years to hit level 21 (where he is right now).

Just my two gold pieces.

And, a big congratulations to those who hit 20 and 21!

[thaelis]

The Abyss of legend, so dig out your source books. It's unlikely we will let the XP from the spawns level you past 20, but we could change our stance on this.

My fear would be that giving xp for killing creatures past level 20 might just encourage level 20's to grind, where they should be leading their factions and arranging lower-level NPC's to go on missions etc.

This is coming from someone in the Aussie timezone. I am going to reach level 21 in about 10-20 RL years under the current system, but even I can see it has some benefits.