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The second level wizard spell wracking touch gives you full SA. Use that to test it.Originally posted by Mournas View PostI am unsure if that actually works, none of my rays EVER got sneak attack off. I would cast them over and over and over just to try to get it.
Not sure if you would have to change every ray attack in the game to reflect this or if you can just apply sneak attack to anything listed as a ranged touch attack. Im suspecting its the former
Originally posted by roguethreeIf I had my way, clerics would have spell failure and a d6 hit die. And Favored Souls wouldn't exist.
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If it was ever changed in a way that I could sneak attack with disintegrate, I would seriously considering remaking Eirimil as an Arcane Trickster. He's always been a sneaky mage-thief anyway.Active
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In theory should be possible. Even if you didnt kill them (i.e. they make their save) you could still potentially do a shit-ton of damage. Its a thing of beauty!Originally posted by Satoshi View PostIf it was ever changed in a way that I could sneak attack with disintegrate, I would seriously considering remaking Eirimil as an Arcane Trickster. He's always been a sneaky mage-thief anyway.Originally posted by roguethreeIf I had my way, clerics would have spell failure and a d6 hit die. And Favored Souls wouldn't exist.
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Terrible argument.Originally posted by Root View PostYou're missing HiPS.
HiPs only comes into play if they're willing to invest 8 levels into the Assassin class and sacrifice the spellcasting power that comes with it, plus the one level of rogue needed to meet the minimum requirements for the assassin class (unless you want to put off taking Assassin till level 14).
It'd be much easier to get HiPS via the Shadowdancer class, requiring only 6 non-casting levels rather than the Assassins 9.It is the greatest of all mistakes to do nothing because you can only do a little - Do what you can.
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Okay then I take that as an Its okay to abuse a PRC for build purposes. Very well then I have been meaning to make a new character but was unsure if it would be frowned upon for abusing a PRC. Thanks for giving me the go-ahead. =)Originally posted by Cornuto View Post*Gasp!*"Service to a cause greater than yourself is the utmost honor you can achieve."
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Originally posted by Doubtful View PostTerrible argument.
HiPs only comes into play if they're willing to invest 8 levels into the Assassin class and sacrifice the spellcasting power that comes with it, plus the one level of rogue needed to meet the minimum requirements for the assassin class (unless you want to put off taking Assassin till level 14).
It'd be much easier to get HiPS via the Shadowdancer class, requiring only 6 non-casting levels rather than the Assassins 9.
Perfect in all but the fact that SD sucks ass
For as long as there have been builds there have been powerbuilders. If some guy gets a hardon over adding an extra +2 to his AB by screwing up his chances of being taken seriously as an RPer, more power to himOriginally posted by Mournas View PostOkay then I take that as an Its okay to abuse a PRC for build purposes. Very well then I have been meaning to make a new character but was unsure if it would be frowned upon for abusing a PRC. Thanks for giving me the go-ahead. =)
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What drugs are you on?Originally posted by Mournas View PostOkay then I take that as an Its okay to abuse a PRC for build purposes. Very well then I have been meaning to make a new character but was unsure if it would be frowned upon for abusing a PRC. Thanks for giving me the go-ahead. =)
"Assassin levels should qualify for Arcane Trickster."
"I agree."
"You realize that means people will build Assassin/Arcane tricksters?!?!"
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ಠ__ಠLast edited by Cornuto; 01-11-2012, 11:59 PM.Originally posted by SaulusStop playing other shitty MMOs and work on Sundren, asshole.
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Well before I made Mythradin I made another AT and asked if it would be bad to join the eboncoin to get 1 level of SToA for the extra sneak attack die to take AT early I was scolded for suggesting such a combination. Yet come to find out it is okay to do so. Just saying everyone should be on the same page, then posts like this force other DMs to "change" their minds on the situation. Its kind of annoying to scrap a character because of this situation."Service to a cause greater than yourself is the utmost honor you can achieve."
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So taking 1 level of assassin is any different than taking 1 level of SToA solely for the purpose of getting AT a level earlier? It still amounts to the same ordeal. 18th level caster 2 rogue levels. This has nothing to do with RP purposes either cause just because Jord was 1 level of StoA would not have affected his RP value. RP comes from the player not the characters class make up. A Rogue 1 SToA 1 8 Wizard 10 AT "powerbuild" could have the same or more RP Value as anyone else on the server.Originally posted by Seheren View PostSaying you want to use a class solely to powerbuild, and taking a class and RPing it are very different. I think the approach you used was... Not well thought out.
(Anyone taking JUST 1 level of SToA or Assassin are doing it simply for the Powerbuild)"Service to a cause greater than yourself is the utmost honor you can achieve."
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As long as it isnt 1 monk/19 druid, I can cope. There could be many reasons to only have 1 level of either of those classes. Perhaps you started your training, gained what you could from them and turned back to magic, seeing that as an easier route to your goals.
Perhaps you are evil, malicious, and bloodthirsty, you want to kill more efficiently and begin to train with assassins. You learn the basics, and go back to your study of more devastating magical spells. You use your sneaky skills, and the limited knowledge of the assassin way, as a way to better focus your arcane talents.
I never said either class was different, but asking a DM if it is ok to take a class solely because you want to get your PrC earlier... That is what I was talking about.
This is a fantasy setting, sky is the limit.
Just no monk1/druid 19, please. Please...
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not as powerful as you think RAAAAAGEOriginally posted by seheren View Postjust no monk1/druid 19, please. Please...
And I will forever stand by this arguement while there are Mystic Theurges and Stormlords/FS and plain FSs and clerics and sorc/ASoCs running around.Originally posted by ThePaganKingSo, the roguethree bootlickers strike again.
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