General Plea - Be Searchable

[Root]

When I log on seeing six folk or more on the server, what I hope for is to be able to search about and find somewhere to go where I know I can bump into people for RP.

If everyone is stopping themselves being Searchable, I might as well be playing a solo module for the lack of ability to RP it gives me.

I don't care if your character is wanted by the state, or there's a high level evil character with a reputation for PvP pwning everyone online. If you're being hunted down using Searching in a way you think is griefing, report it to the DM's rather than being nonexistant.

I just can't for the life of me see a decent reason to not want people to know where you are to interact with you.

This is an RP server, so get together with people, meet up, RP, and have a little faith and willingness to meet up with strangers and chat rather than just have a server of ten people at opposite ends of the map, alone, soloing. Where's the fun in that?

If you must turn searchable off, turn it off for very secret events that are hidden in places and shouldn't be noticed, not 90% of the time. It makes it impossible for new players to find RP or anyone to chat with past sending out tells to random strangers and making it feel forced.

This is a multiplayer server, for RP. Not a module where only your close friends can come RP with you. Be searchable, guys. For the newbies. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE NEWBIES.

[Lilene Jora]

It was a little silly earlier being online with 8 people, and seeing 1 person reported online in argyle keep. Even notorious as Lilene is, I've been leaving searchable on pretty constantly lately.

[Root]

I've never ruddy well turned it off, and lived the majority of my life being hunted by Team Lawful. Who tend to be backed up with Wizards that throw out a bigby's the second things don't go their way. >_>

Incidentally, I was that one person in Argyle.

[Biohazard89]

Usually never turn it off either but id turn it off today whiel i was at Argyle

[Dragor]

While there are many benefits to the search feature and the staff has already said they wont remove it, the information you garner from it is OOC and I have gotten meta'd too freakin much to care weather its inconvenient or not

But like they say it's a personal choice....mine stays off

[grant]

Since the only solution to not getting stomped to paste in a faction area is to turn it off, that is what I'll do, even if I am only passing through for 30 seconds on my way to another area. Since my memory is more flaky than a pie crust, I forget to turn it back on again about as often as I forget to turn it off in the first place.

[Root]

Since the only solution to not getting stomped to paste in a faction area is to turn it off, that is what I'll do, even if I am only passing through for 30 seconds on my way to another area. Since my memory is more flaky than a pie crust, I forget to turn it back on again about as often as I forget to turn it off in the first place.

I've never once seen this happen.

I know there was a post on it where the DM's ruled that using it to gank people in faction areas was exploiting, so even valid as that is, it shouldn't be a reason to be unsearchable, since using it to find you for PvP is against the rules.

[img] the information you garner from it is OOC and I have gotten meta'd too freakin much to care weather its inconvenient or not[/img]

Have you ever reported this metagaming? Seems a better response to having it happen than just becoming a recluse.

[Dragor]

Being reactive in a situation that will just be one persons word against another persons word is pointless so I chose to be proactive and not have any reason to get into another spat with someone

That is my reasoning but as I said its a personal choice

[grant]

How do you prove it though? even if it was not meta and it was a coincidence each time, why tempt fate?

[Vonjan]

I'm an archer..and trust me having friends to fight with is fun.. I don't understand the logic behind not wanting to be searchable. So what if someone searches and finds me..better be playing with a friend than being alone and hoping you get out of it alive. I understand the wizard,the rogue and mixed characters that mix classes.you know instead of giving rp every 20 minutes staying there perhaps they should give 15 xp for being in a party and a discussion is going on.
maybe that would make the folks more incline to find each other.
now don't get me wrong if your a psycho antisocial bad guy i'm not going to be hoping to rp with you or team up..but for the people that needs that hand and do there best to get along..hey why not reward them.

[Root]

How do you prove it though? even if it was not meta and it was a coincidence each time, why tempt fate?

By said logic, why go outside in the real world? You might get shot and killed by some random nutter.

But if you don't, you become a prisoner in your home and a lonely recluse.

At least in Sundren, being killed by a random nutter is only temporary.

If you get found by some psycho char who kills you, meh, a respawn from PvP is cheap.

Risk a little of your character in the name of RP. In PvP, there is almost always an RP way out, but it might involve your character not acting like an invincible badass.

Even if you're a solo cleric/EK and just go around roflpwning everything, some of the other, group-based classes like to party up, and if XP is really all that matters to you (but then, why would you be on this server and not, say, BG:TSCC, home of the zerg?), remember you get a significant boost to it from being in a group.

If a new character joins, they're likely going to only be able to find people by using the Search tool. If everyone is too scared of PvP / too antisocial / too interested in soloing uninterrupted / whatever, they're going to find that nobody is there. They're likely to just give up after wandering around lost for a while, and we lose a potentially good player.

So risk yourself a bit. It's the spice of life. If you get metagamed, report it, deal with it, move on. If there are players who really just come on with their high-levels, search the world until they find someone alone, then go there to kill them, report it. Once the reports stack up, the DM's are sure to start thinking that this person is destroying more than they're adding, and will likely do something about it.

Have a little faith in your fellow player and the DM's. And be searchable.

[Lilene Jora]

Anecdotally, there were many times when I first started Lilene, when I probably could have turned tail and run towards the nearest transition whenever I caught wind of Clive or Ruby or any other bad dude...but it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun in the end, even though I, as a player, knew something bad might be about to happen to my character.

I know personally for me now, Lilene very seldomly pvp's anyone...typically not unless someone starts something. It's just...more fun to RP other things (even wicked things) than try to kill people just because one can.

I agree with Root's sentiment, that especially in this game world, sometimes you just have to take a chance, even if you know something bad is going to happen...because sometimes thrusting one's character into a tense or dangerous situation is the point...and the fun that makes the game worth playing.

[richardleitch5]

Being serchable in a faction hunting zone = being PvPed and killed by a bad guy 10 levels higher than you, the best i ever got from it was a fully buffed guy poppign up and saying "leave" as he killed the party....thats alowed and that is "RP" but its borign as hell and no fun at all...and its the norme. Yoy have no way of proving that this persion would not have hunted and splatted you useing the "serch" butten so you have no other defence exept for turning it off.

As for everywhere elce... *shrugs* half the time its little gangs of RPers huddled in a corner that like RPing with each other and dont want an "outsider" involved. Still my charicters have only ever been "unserchable" when in a secrite meeting with a friend and that was very uncommon. Evananda was always serchable during my short lived retern yet no one cared to find her, or maybe they just dont know where Lliiras temple was as iv had to give a few directions to people wanting a rez but in the end even being serchable ment no RP and got very booring.

[Root]

Being serchable in a faction hunting zone = being PvPed and killed by a bad guy 10 levels higher than you,

I point to this post:

Originally Posted by Saulus
Just for everyone else to be clear if it wasn't in Acorn's post, using the search tool to find people in a faction area, then running there to defend it is metagaming... regardless of how you feel.

We put the toggle searchable in there to help prevent this behavior, and DMs will penalize if they feel it is warranted for the situation.

From this thread:
http://www.sundren.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16585

It is against the rules to do what you describe. Report it. Have it dealt with by the DM's. Carry on. No need to turn the server into a wasteland because of some metagamer breaking the rules on you one time that you didn't report.

[richardleitch5]

proving that it happened with the use of the serch tool is not possable to my knolage