Caster hate.

[Kajae]

More reason to have a party back you up.

Going off into the heart of darkness alone? That's suicide, from an IC perspective.

[Handsomeman]

I am fairly certain your cleric can still be useful there kharn. Just team up with someone and change your strategy a bit. Instead of being a front line fighter, be a healer. Same go for mages too, change your strategy and throw those damage or crowd control spells. When i was playing my paladin, i often had to switch his party role to suitthe needs of the party, from healer to tank to dps. Give it a try, may not be as fast as you are use to, but it will work.

[Dragor]

*Cough* Sacrificial Summons *Cough*

[Sir Kharn]

Going off into the heart of darkness alone? That's suicide, from an IC perspective.

Thats Kharn.

Its not often possible for me to get into party's due to my timezone, most of the time I'm on there are few players, but thats not my point. Sure the traps are a quick fix until something can be done to balance casters but its not right also that i (and others) cant do as my character would normally do, sitting around the fire at the inn and waiting for a vampire to turn up is boring after a while.

[Lilene Jora]

The thing about enemies with dispelling attacks and arrows are...against someone already buffed with 40+ armor...the arrows never hit to do the dispelling. The alternative is buffing the ab of the archers to ridiculous levels so they can hit...but then that's not balanced when buffs are stripped off and they're too strong. Perhaps leave the mob's ab at normal levels, and give them a finite supply (3 or so?) dispelling arrows they shoot first that have dispel properties, +ab to hit with, and then a huge damage penalty? So they 'only' dispel, without shredding you with unfair ab and damage, and then go back to doing regular attacks?

[Kajae]

With enough archers and attacks per round, it's quite likely that one of them is going to roll a natural 20.

[AsuraKing]

The only way that I've seen any group so far (even one with a sneak) not get almost slaughtered is if there's a dwarven defender around to absorb all the damage, otherwise most fighters and barbarians wont be living too long... unless you got like 10 of um.

I think the idea is a good one in theory, but in practice it seems to be just basically making casters become useless, cause even the fighters require the buffs of others.

[Dragor]

Apparently the complaints are from a balancing perspective, I seem to remember when the traps were implemented there was something said of finding that happy medium over time, but seriously the high lvl areas should be nigh impossible

I like Lilenes suggestion about the dispell arrows

But as I said anytime the caster vs melee thing came up, In the high lvl areas when you start working against buffers your working against everyone since everyone needs buffs to survive

Of course I dont know why Karn is complaining since he died all the time anyway but I do understand his point about some characters are loners(and I mean from an IC perspective), its a personality trait not catered too by this server though

...so to end with

Life's a bitch...and then you die (but thats what lvl 9 clerics are for, not as some people believe a main battle tank)

[Intrepid42]

The only way that I've seen any group so far (even one with a sneak) not get almost slaughtered is if there's a dwarven defender around to absorb all the damage

Wise advice, and I concur totally.

The best orc-killing solution is to have a balanced party containing a balanced mix of dwarves.

[Lothoir]

You wish. A group of elves will frolic right through those orcs before you dwarves recover from last night's hangover :P

[Dragor]

Dwarves don't have hangovers

[AsuraKing]

Life's a bitch...and then you die (but thats what lvl 9 clerics are for, not as some people believe a main battle tank)

Well that depends completely on the God/Goddess the cleric follows.

[Thief Of Navarre]

I think these dispell traps are quite good. Its kept me on my toes for a few games!

Buffs are supposed to be circumstancial and short term according to the players guide ~ the type of stuff we use on sundren is anything but short term. My druid can go around with +10 to AC, +6 to saves, 30/A DR and over 280hp for over a day at sixteenth level... one dispell trap and Im down to being my original form with crappy AC, No DR and spamming the defensive casting button. Its good!

[Dragor]

Well that depends completely on the God/Goddess the cleric follows.

I was speaking in general terms of course

[Subal]

Dwarven defenders rule Hooya, Go Gromlin! , Gromlin loves buffs and thinks you should keep buffing yaa!