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[Rannarix]

Yes well, one does not have a giant sign over one's head that says "Perfect World."

[RynebowBright]

Juat a friendly poke to say that this seems to be getting in to the realm of flaming so ya may want to cool it some.

Thanks!

[Tratz]

Juat a friendly poke to say that this seems to be getting in to the realm of flaming so ya may want to cool it some.

Thanks!

*chuckles* I don't mean to be disrespectful but...

...what?

Anyways, Rannarix. What we're having right now is a debate over the repercussions of an arguement. Honestly, if you could set some ground rules: No putting other people down or take low blows at people, then perhaps a thread like that could thrive full of thoughtful and interesting arguements that may effect the player community in a positive manner. A debate or rant is *NOT* an angry thing. It's about bringing two people's or a group of people's ideas and perspectives together in a civil conversation and hopefully learning something you had overlooked by hearing it from another's perspective.

[RynebowBright]

I just see it heading in that direction, so I thought I would say something before anyone needed a warning. *shrugs*

[VanillaRose]

A rant is, by virtue of its denotation, violent in its nature. A forum dedicated to rants would not be in the best interest of promoting community well-being. Debates are another matter altogether, but experience dictates that few internet debates last long before turning into nothing more than a "your opinion sucks and mine is better" spectacle.

[boreas]

A rant is, by virtue of its denotation, violent in its nature. A forum dedicated to rants would not be in the best interest of promoting community well-being. Debates are another matter altogether, but experience dictates that few internet debates last long before turning into nothing more than a "your opinion sucks and mine is better" spectacle.

Well said.

[Ash]

"...few internet debates last long before turning into nothing more than a "your opinion sucks and mine is better" spectacle..."

I suppose it depends on the communities you frequent. Debate doesn't have to devolve into flame-war. And besides, admins can lock down anything that gets out of hand.

I don't want a rant forum. If you have an issue that requires a "rant" that includes personal attacks, why not tone it down to something that isn't a rant and doesn't include personal attacks? That's called "maturity".

And if you really must take issue with someone or something, find a more personal medium (not that I support that...).

Debate good. Rant bad.

End of rant.

*runs away*

[thorandike]

A rant is, by virtue of its denotation, violent in its nature. A forum dedicated to rants would not be in the best interest of promoting community well-being. Debates are another matter altogether, but experience dictates that few internet debates last long before turning into nothing more than a "your opinion sucks and mine is better" spectacle.

I also agree with this wholeheartedly. You're right that there is a difference between a rant and a debate but the nature of internet forums that I have seen... a debate/rant/whatever turns ugly more often than not. Too many folks get angry when others disagree with their opinions and posting when angry is never good. (I've seen a spark of it here and there on this forum already.)

[Akitsuki]

i don't see whats wrong with ranting so long as you don't single anyone out.

[valenator]

What's the point of ranting? If you for some reason feel better for typing an often baseless, personal, painful to read essay on a public forum for other people to read, why not just step away from your computer and yell for a bit? Rants don't solve problems, rants don't create dialogue; they're the equivalent of a textual hissy fit. Most times, the person that rants gets told he's a tool for ranting, and well, that's not helpful, either.

Real issues can be pm'd to a staff member. Personal issues can be pm'd to players. Pointless venting can be...just left off the forums...please?

Creating an entire forum for rants? Seems like a bad idea, providing an avenue for it all, but I suppose we could label it "Day Care."

[Gurkak]

Given basic rules I've seen rants functioning very well on other servers - even help to point out problems once in awhile.

Rules:

1: No names
2: No personal attacks(keep it somewhat vague)
3: Vent some damn steam!

^ Or similar..

(edit) Oh, and folks who don't want to see rants do not 'sign up' for it. Keeps everyone happy more or less...