Upcoming Events

Collapse

There are no results that meet this criteria.

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Knockdown?

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #91
    What is so hilarious about this whole deal.. is its all about PVP..


    KD wouldn't shite if your fighting 5 other players.. or its multiple characters against multiple characters.

    You could knock the crap outta someone and if they have buddies it isn't going to do anything cause you'll be getting your arse beat.

    Its all about 1 on 1 Thats really it.

    Think about it.

    KD is really fine if you get it and use it on creatures and stuff but once its PVP... BLAMO! "OMG.. wTF.. KD SPammer!"


    I agree with GBX to just delay the time to use KD ability.

    clerics with Harm have to memorize the spell and you won't see Abigale running around with a harm spell in her heart. Not everyon will have it..

    Same with mages..

    Like I said.. they are gonna have enough for a possible.. PVP 1 on 1 battle unless they just pick a whole row out for them.. and if they do that..then whatever.. their waste of time and spells for the sake of PVP.

    In my previous server I was in a raging multi PVP battle.. Evil cult people against righteous heretic hunters..

    We kicked the crap outta of them.. it was so chaotic that bigbies.. harms and knockdowns didn't mean squat.. cause swords were flying all over the place.. While a mage is casting bigbies.. he's getting knockdown by a fighter who gets attacked by another... and so forth.

    That was fun!

    KD just needs to be limited a little so fighters can't spam it or whomever else use it in a pvp scenerio. or do the touch attack. Watch the movie 300 and you will see plenty of shield bashing.. thats a good touch attack.. and whats wrong with fighters using their feet to knockdown people??? Hmmm? A nice stiff boot in the chest could knock some fools down too.. don't forget.. people have feet...shields.. and shoulders.. a well place shoulder blow.. these can define alot of RP aspects of Knockdown.

    if you limited KD for the RP aspect it would work..

    For example:

    like a time delay...

    - Ninja uber karate Ninjaturtle sweep: cause you can't just sweep a dude 50 times in a row.. its friggin ridiculous and they can catch on.. Unless your playing Streetfighter 2 and you use the little sweep button.. you don't get knocked down but it sure is funny looking..

    - Shield bash: how many times can you really shield bash someone in a row..

    - the boot in the chest: Think about it hahaha this guy trying to stick his foot in your chest multiple times.

    - shoulder blow: ever fought those Abobos in Double dragon? they would just shoulder blow non stop! It was retarded!! And ls stupid.. the point is.. in a battle people could catch on quick to someone trying to knock you down multiple times.. over and over again. *shrugs*


    This is an RP server and if we can look at the broken KD and utilize it in a way the makes it RP oriented then I think it wouldn't seem soooo.. broken ( if its nerfed a little ) It won't be perfect.. but heck. its something..right? right??
    Current: Dae'Vesta, freaky female half-drow assassin


    Like Metal ? ----> http://www.myspace.com/cryofsickness2008

    Comment


    • #92
      The journey is a pain in the ass.
      If you feel pain, you know you are alive.
      Playing Asha'easaahae Illeleste & Frem

      Comment


      • #93
        Can't understand KD hate. It really helps to have at least a little chance against caster.

        Man a 20 Cleric and 20 Wiz is the most overpowered stuff ever besides 19 Druid 1 Monk in NWN2 terms.

        Even the 1Bard/4Fighter/10RDD/5FB KD build won't compare.

        Ethernal jount (you can buff like crazy and noone will ever see you ethernal), bigby, buffs, spell mantels, sneak and crit immune spoll, IGMS (maximized garanted 120 damage, yoho) for the Wiz alone make them retarded.

        Then Druids and their AC, even if empower turtle is fixed and body of the sun they are near untouchable at high levels and got the best death spell dc's. Owl's Insight really pushes their spell DC. Also Druids have an anti KD spell very early and one of their flame spells extented does unreal damage if you are not fire immune.

        Caster own NWN2, so let KD stay. Also helps non power builds to succeed. Just imagine my pure Ranger without it. Would make him at the end totally useless in combat.
        "I feel like role models today are not meant to be put on a pedestal. But more like angels with broken wings"

        - Tupac

        Comment


        • #94
          This thread is ancient

          On sundren Knockdown has a cooldown of 12 seconds I believe. BAsically, it's bugged in NWN2 where it doesn't make a touch attack before hitting people. In other words, no matter what you'll get knocked down if you fail that stat competition (Which is easy to fail). I've had a level 8 monk spam knocking down a level 20 creature just to give you an idea of the bug. I'd hate for you to get killed by a level 6 at epic levels

          Comment


          • #95
            12 sec is 2 rounds ... huge ... I'd say 1 round per 1 KD attempt. But I'll see how it turns out once I hit lvl 6. Guess it is alright.

            Also the Str check is a bit bugged, but you still need Str to work with it. It's still nothing against a no save maxed IGMS (exspecially if we consider at epic there comes epic spell penetration etc., man I hate that spell from Obsidian). The caster could just go ethernal a sec after. Besides an Str Monk (speed ahoy) you can't make use of it vs caster if they play smart (not much do so through, I still see people using useless fireballs and the like in PvP only server, I would understand it here for RP and stuff through).

            At least the guys here are smart enough to not ban it. Hated a PWC were it was banned and then they wondered why 80% of the players used caster or other non Str builds. I love you for this admins of sundren! I'm not a PvP guy anymore and stuff, but I don't like seeing people making one diss after another on KD or wanting a ban. It is a bit broken but not overpowered.
            "I feel like role models today are not meant to be put on a pedestal. But more like angels with broken wings"

            - Tupac

            Comment


            • #96
              From what I can find out about MotB, it looks like Obsidian is going to give this a two round cool down and require a touch attack.

              Sundren leads the way
              Mapper and Mad Kitten
              Currently playing:
              Lill Moonberry - Halfling Bard who knows the Hills are Alive with the Sound of angry goblins

              Comment


              • #97
                As long as the touch attacks uses Str I'm cool with it. Would be nicefor Dex builds to alter with weapon finesse the KD touch ... Nah guess won't happen ever through.
                "I feel like role models today are not meant to be put on a pedestal. But more like angels with broken wings"

                - Tupac

                Comment


                • #98
                  Yeah actually I told Rob McGinnis the cooldown timer we used on Sundren and how well it worked, and sure enough it's what Obsidian adopted.
                  The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.

                  George Carlin

                  Comment


                  • #99
                    Kay, old thread, it's been resolved in game and it's not much to discuss. Closing this one too.

                    Closing words:

                    Knockdown has a 2 round cooldown after use, it can't be spammed. This is our best solution we could come up with while leaving the feat in the game.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X