The timer on changing cloths.

[Rhifox]

Wow thanks for the headsup, that could have been lethal.

No combat in shapeshifted forms until that is sorted out. Phew!

Yeah. I was fighting Hungry Bog Zombies with it and noticed when I cast it that it took 10 seconds after shifting the first time, so I figured it would have a timer on debuff as well. I put refreshed my Greater Stoneskin and put a Grease spell under me which was the only reason I was able to last the whole 20 seconds. :P

[Product of Void]

sounds like the "on equip" script was modified.

easy fix would be that the spell shape shift etc put a variable on the player and the on equip checks for it.

does MoMF function properly too? or cause the same delay?

*edit*

just a thought, is this really a problem? I mean the reason was to promote realism of dawning armor. Would not changing form take time and alot of pain also causing the person to be distracted/phased for a bit?

[DurinRustbeard]

I wonder if it would now be possible to add in the feat found in DND that allows Battleragers to sleep in their armor except allowing anyone who wants to take the feat, to take it.

[Saulus]

I wonder if it would now be possible to add in the feat found in DND that allows Battleragers to sleep in their armor except allowing anyone who wants to take the feat, to take it.

Sounds like a possibility.

[Silas North]

Sleeping in armor?

Nice idea but I do not really see many people taking that as a feat unless it did something else as well or was a prereq for some prc.

Then again, it would sure make those assassins think twice.

[Verrath]

Hmm.... is it possible to apply this equip/unequip timer only when the regular rest rules begin to apply (i.e. after level 5)?

I think it makes low level hunting a bit tedious - I know a few toons who do have to rest after each batch of goblins they are taking out, and the time taken for this now roughly quadrupled for the tin can types...

Other than that I think it's a cool thing.

[Kaeldorn]

It's possible, but I think not really desirable. New people need to get acquainted with the rest rules too.

Maybe I could halve the times for levels under 6.

[Silas North]

Newbies already get truckloads of gems. I say DOUBLE their change timer LOL.

[Cornuto]

Newbies already get truckloads of gems.

Not for long.

[Kaeldorn]

The gem drop chance has dropped by about 80% on average across all bosses. Try mining instead

[Maevan2]

It's possible, but I think not really desirable. New people need to get acquainted with the rest rules too.

Maybe I could halve the times for levels under 6.

Just imagine you play the first time on Sundren. You have just the 4 potions and are told to hunt those goblins. With a bit of luck you manage to defeat the first group and have to rest. And then you are confronted with this rule. I don't think that improves the first impression of Sundren. And you have to rest quite often at those low levels.

But reducing the times to 50% sounds good to me.

[Biohazard89]

If i remember correctly...in PnP it takes 4 turns to put on a Fullplate which is 12 seconds.
you have to remember that in the real world fullplates from D&D is only a half plate or a battleplate armor. Real fullplate armors were so heavy that if you fell over you aint moving again they only allowed for limb movement and such.

My example of this is King Frederick the 5th's armor..it weighed a mind blogging 110kg with a weight of 25kg on each arm and leg. thats alot.

SO IMO id say the timers cool...but reduce it abit.

[TheBlankStare]

According to the handy dandy DnD 3.5 SRD . . . Biohazard is sort of right. It does take 4 turns but a turn is actually ten rounds. That's four minutes. A nice abstraction of reality to be sure. :P I went to a Rennisance Festival once and had them put some plate type armor on me an it took nearly 30 minutes and that was with the help of experienced. . . helpers.

We've actually got it really good in Sundren!

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/...oAndOutOfArmor

[gbbishop]

does MoMF function properly too? or cause the same delay?

um NO! i was in the mossdale when i found a huge timer upon shifting out of a form.... this is a BIG issue for shifters.... we need to come out of forms quick to stay alive if we are frozen then... well it's badness to the Nth degree.

while on the topic. how impossible would it be to shift from one form to another with out reverting to true form first? This was common practice for me in pnp...

[gbbishop]

For the record, I for one am down with the new "burden" for tin cans... I had felt for a long time that the big ac bonus was to easily obtained. I have a bunch of newer toons who wear big armours and I find the pause to be more than palatable.

Keep up the good stuff DEVs and DMs!