Eh... Why?

[Fuzziebunny]

Yes.... He does have smite good. And it usually hits for about 180 to 200 pts of damage.

[Handsomeman]

This daily quest is not easy to solo if you dont have the right build for it. Even with a lvl 22 neutral fighter, i hold off from doing it until i get some backup from players. Even with back up, i have failed more than once.

[Lugwy]

Definitely has Smite Good.

I won't deny the possibility that there's something up with the BH's version, though.

[Jhickey]

Finally, given the fact that it is now possible to level to epic levels using these quests... the staff should consider the implications of having more epic level characters from the Legion, Thayans, Blackwood, Whurest, Exigo, Cartel, and the Hand related factions than from the Blackhand or Colibrus factions. The vast majority of factions rely on an easier daily epic quest that is also significantly easier to access.

Cheers!

Manu makes a great point here. My suggestion would to not bring down the difficulty of the Black Hand Quest, but to increase the Blackwood quest. I love the difficulty of our quest, it is a great challenge most of the time.

[Rekov]

Manu makes a great point here. My suggestion would to not bring down the difficulty of the Black Hand Quest, but to increase the Blackwood quest. I love the difficulty of our quest, it is a great challenge most of the time.

While I would be inclined to agree with this in a vacuum, as it currently stands, there's also just a lot less people generally available to do the evil daily. There is a much smaller pool of PCs to draw from, and even then they all have to manage to be on at the same time.

The Blackwood daily is open to a much larger selection of people to do, so a large part of how easy it is is how quickly you can get people together to knock it out as a group. Since it doesn't take half an hour to get there, it isn't a huge inconvenience if anyone has to run it twice either.

[Phantom Lamb]

The quests give XP beyond level 20, if people weren't dying sometimes playing them, I would be disappointed.

Fair enough. Maybe we just need to clean up the descriptor so it says Recommended Minimum Level: 20 (instead of 18).

Also, one thing I want to echo that goes without saying: we don't WANT people to be able to solo the quest. So when you write, "I can only solo it half the time," we're going to respond that you should do it in groups!

[Rekov]

Also, one thing I want to echo that goes without saying: we don't WANT people to be able to solo the quest. So when you write, "I can only solo it half the time," we're going to respond that you should do it in groups!

I agree with this entirely. The problem as it stands now is that one group of people "can only solo it half the time" and the other ground can barely maybe do it with four people some of the time when they're lucky enough to all be around.

[Phantom Lamb]

I agree with this entirely. The problem as it stands now is that one group of people "can only solo it half the time" and the other ground can barely maybe do it with four people some of the time when they're lucky enough to all be around.

Understood, that's fair. I wish there was an easy way to scale it based on things like "number online within your faction" or whatnot. I commisserate with the difficulties there. I don't know if they will change though.

[Valhalla]

Also, one thing I want to echo that goes without saying: we don't WANT people to be able to solo the quest.

Paladins.

[Saulus]

Fair enough. Maybe we just need to clean up the descriptor so it says Recommended Minimum Level: 20 (instead of 18).

Also, one thing I want to echo that goes without saying: we don't WANT people to be able to solo the quest. So when you write, "I can only solo it half the time," we're going to respond that you should do it in groups!

The last time I checked, it says 18+ group/party. If that doesn't tell people it's difficult, then I doubt putting 20+ group/party will make a big difference.

I can sympathize with some factions having a greater difficulty, but to make any kind of change would just shift the balance in another direction when player numbers fluctuate for a given side. I've personally observed enough evil PCs dominate the quest that I know it's not impossible, merely challenging.

My real solution is just for us to have more dailies like I've planned, but as people know these things take time and with so few people capable of designing these quests it usually falls upon myself to make them.

[Phantom Lamb]

Paladins.

Class balance is something that will be a continuous evaluation process. Sorry I don't have a better response than that.

[ManUtd4Ever]

...only one other person has picked up on the fact that the Black Hand daily takes multiple transitions and about 30 minutes just to get to the location. I have been in party at the Pit with the Colibrite already spawned and waited while someone ran back to get the quest before starting.

Please consider moving the Blackhand epic to a more convenient location.

Cheers!

[Kitsunestume]

I'ld be supportive of making the Colibrite Knight's two squishy buddies less squishy, rather than the knight himself more lethal, as an alternate suggestion.

Might make the combat less of a 1v1 with a side of gnats, and encourage extra bodies to help when dealing with extra bodies. It's usually been my observation that the two human supporters for the knight don't really have enough of an effect on a single empowered tank, but teams actually have the extra attack-chains to deal with them, particularly when in balanced party.

As for PL's comment about groups, I was planning to just post a screenie of the quest dialog calling it a party-thing, but that works too.

But. . . yeah, Paladins. :-/ Hard for them not to be good against a target that they are designed to be good against.

[Alistair Smith]

Please consider moving the Blackhand epic to a more convenient location.

Not even having a BH character myself I would agree with moving the location for fairness.

[Lotus]

Also, one thing I want to echo that goes without saying: we don't WANT people to be able to solo the quest.

Paladins.

Class balance is something that will be a continuous evaluation process. Sorry I don't have a better response than that.

Just gonna head this one off: Paladins smoking an evil undead is not an issue of class balance.