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  • #16
    Mostly because the disconnect lies in that sometimes we subdue, and sometimes we "kill"--e.g. sending someone to the fugue. There's a DM wording, by Poltergeist I think, that "deaths" are just being in a state of incapacitation, in an attempt to not treat death like a revolving door because of all the Raise Dead/Resurrections being thrown around. In that case, maybe reword the spells?

    Personally, I don't care where I respawn, as long as it makes sense.


    EDIT: Ah, here it is. Namely, the section:

    Originally posted by Poltergeist
    NPC Clerics will revive dead characters for a tithe. Please roleplay your friend as being at death's door, but not actually dead. The afterlife is not a revolving door.
    But please, keep one thing in mind for me. What have you become when even nightmares fear you?
    - Nessa

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    • #17
      Hmm.. curious. Thanks for the link, Lugwy.

      Disregard everything I mentioned.
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      The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried."
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      • #18
        If being dead results in a respawn, how can clerics treat the wounds of a dead man/woman? They're dead.
        Woohoo hoo.. look who knows so much eh? Well it just so happend that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X90qKQAMh8A

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        • #19
          Triadic knights do not respawn in the temple of selune. They respawn in a temple relevant to their faith and alignment!! It's mechanical g'damnnit. Baddies also don't spawn at the temple of selune, because they're not relevant because Of What I Just Said. Untill very recently all good characters spawned in the temple of helm. Im glad that my GC character goes somewhere slightly more relevant, and not in the floating city

          I'm keeping all my elves away from the mediocre human healers. I even heard they run around wasting their divine powers on livestock!!
          My'athvin Simaryl - Elven Mhaornathil
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          • #20
            Oh, yeah, faction also determines where you'll respawn. I was pleasantly surprised to find Julia respawning in the Avanthyr Hold last time I had her toe the bucket.
            But please, keep one thing in mind for me. What have you become when even nightmares fear you?
            - Nessa

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            • #21
              I must disagree Mr. Farmboy! I think you respawn wherever farmer Bob decided to dump your beat-up, comatose (or dead) body off his hay cart. Since he doesn't want to get stuck with a jaw-dropping bill when a cleric of Selune catches him, that'll probably be the Ilmateri free clinic down the road. And im reasonably sure elves spend vast portions of their lazy, unambitious outdated healing ability treating their furry forest friends, and grass.

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              • #22
                Fabulous. Now I have to go watch Boondock Saints, AND the Princess Bride.
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                • #23
                  I foresee an inbound plot rife with religious rivalry.
                  But please, keep one thing in mind for me. What have you become when even nightmares fear you?
                  - Nessa

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                  • #24
                    pauncy elves! hehe!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lugwy View Post
                      I foresee an inbound plot rife with religious rivalry.
                      That's what I wanna see. More lawful good vs. lawful good. The whole evil vs. good/black vs. white/Fox News vs. PBS is rather stale after a while.
                      Mhaaj Anderhart, Halruaan thaumaturgist, Withering Lord of the Myrkulites. [* Retired.]
                      Gabriel Shadesoar - Hated-Errant of the Church of Bane.[* Retired.]


                      "What is the difference between the master and the beginner?

                      The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried."
                      - Stephan McCranie

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                      • #26
                        Oh, there's plenty of that. We ARE struggling together, after all.
                        But please, keep one thing in mind for me. What have you become when even nightmares fear you?
                        - Nessa

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Laurk View Post
                          Woohoo hoo.. look who knows so much eh? Well it just so happend that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X90qKQAMh8A
                          If you wanna pull out technicalities, then who needs a Sanctuary when a Cleric can cast heal (Which removes all adverse conditions affecting a target - both mundane and magical). Just saying, be thankful that you have the Sanctuary in the first place, it allows for plenty of RP opportunities as is ... such as brain surgery. Which, by the way most of what we know about Neuro Surgery is because we have electronics - magic wouldn't tell us a whole lot more on such things. So please let us do away with technicalities on how something is supposed to be RPed. As for Andelain if he falls in combat I RP that he patches himself up and slugs out the hike back to Sundren City where he gets patched up.
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                          • #28
                            Yes I love the new sanctuary, its already become sort of a hub and I think a lot of people will make use of it for RP. I rarley see less than 3 people in there at a time so far. I have no idea what my level of thankfullness has to do with feeling an infirmary is a more realistic place for the "default" Port Avanthyr respawn point is. If the temple of Helm had an interior and an infirmary within, id have prefered that over Selune's temple simply because I and those who like me RP recovering from injury where we wake up, prefer an environment that seems to fit that narrative. A stone floor in a temple without an infirmary or recovery rooms isn't condusive to this. And no matter who you are (besides KoS races), if you wake up in an infirmary of Ilmater, its not immersion breaking because there's a very good RP reason why they wouldn't have thrown you out the moment they saw you.

                            Even the romans were aware of nerves and quite adept at even complex surgery. If the Romans had also had the ability to magically heal and regenerate, imagine how much more they might have known. If they had access to programned illusions and raise dead to perfect their healing craft, is it really so strange to consider their own healing lore might have been nearly on par with modern healing craft? There is nothing strange about someone with a 53 healing skill and 4 feats around that skill RPing knowledge on healing craft that even romans had. But if you RP with Abby, you'll see she consideres nerves to be "pathways for positive energy" without the same level of understanding as we have in modern medicine. Also the "brain surgery" she's doing is more about cutting away malformed or disfigured portions of a brain which are not "injured" per say, and regrowing them before the patient dies. A very valid and canon realistic prodceedure which no cure spell or healing spell would do anthing to fix. Even regeneration magic won't regrow a limb that has healed over. There has to be an "injury" for the magic to work.

                            As for the heal spell, the differance is a temple of Selune charges, what, 500gp for a "heal" spell? That exceeds the yearly wage of some peasants. Thefore, I dont think they'd be giving it willy nilly to any comatose adventurer left on their doorstep. The Sanctuary of Ilmater would be the one acception. However, there are literally tons of reasons why you need an infirmary, because a Heal spell doesn't fix a variety of things, nor will any other spell other than perhaps true ressurection or miracle.

                            So please let us do away with technicalities on how something is supposed to be RPed.
                            Again, completely unfair. I never suggested anyone had to RP anything. You can RP your respawn howver you want. Most adventuring companies ive gone with where respawns occured RPed waking up at teh Temple of Selune, from grevious injuries. It simply makes more sense to move that spot to a place that "does" have an infirmary. I hope most people agree. Those who don't are prefectly welcome to RP "patches himself up and slugs out the hike back to Sundren City where he gets patched up" just as they already do. I mean, since it doen't affect you anyway as you don't RP waking in the temple of Selune, why would you care?

                            Ultimatly its only a suggestion and not a demand. If the staff prefers the respawn in Port Avanthyr be in Selune's temple rathar than an infirmary, thats' their call. I just thought, given how we are asked to RP injury rather than death, it made more sense.
                            Last edited by Laurk; 11-15-2013, 06:45 PM.

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                            • #29
                              However, there are literally tons of reasons why you need an infirmary, because a Heal spell doesn't fix a variety of things,
                              Magical healing fixes just about everything.

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                              • #30
                                Yea, but magical healing isn't as much fun RP wise.
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