Couple Things

[Kaizen]

Sorry, I just wanted to tell you before you put thought into some silly thread and make a forum post about it.

[Kaizen]

I'm not too keen on the Die Hard path, only for the simple fact that once certain kinds of players learn about it, there's a possibility for griefing to perma-kill, which no one will enjoy.

Which is something the player taking Die Hard would know in advance.

On a more serious note, let's be honest.

Every player who's taken 'the X or Y class/race with the possibility of perma', and knowing it ... doesn't accept this little fact. They'll jump through holes and plot crazy plots and get DM help to avoid it. I've seen it happen. Lotsa times.

Maybe this will change with the new death system and the Bruce Willis idea will hold more merit.

Option 2 is gud.

[greypawn]

I don't like the die hard path because it rewards grinding and power builds, not role play.

[Kaybrie]

I like the die hard path, because it punishes power building and grinding.

[greypawn]

I like the die hard path, because it punishes power building and grinding.

After rereading it, I think I may have understood the die hard path incorrectly. Still. It promotes people standing around idle to let the ticker rock out and they may decline adventures that they would otherwise take on. Anyways, I'm not really for it or against it. I just don't care for it.

[Artemis]

EDIT: Also, change the name. There's already a DnD feat called Die Hard. Maybe call it Hardcore Badass?

Or 'Ain't Scared of ****'?

[grant]

Again from another server. They called it story type or some such. At creation you were given the option to choose one or the other.

If you took the active (running around and killing things) story line, then you got a bonus in your combat xp and a reduction in the RP xp.

If you took the less active (scholar/debater/socialite) story line, then you got a bonus to xp for Talking with others and you got less for combat.

I do not believe they had a ticker at all.

At level 6 or so you were given option of changing your story type once.

There are problems to be had with both, one revolves around population, if there are not enough compatible story types, you have no one to grind with, and no one to talk to, leaving you sitting on your hands. Second if English is not your native language, you think slowly, or you are just a slow typist then you loose out choosing the second way, forcing you to become a grinder if you want to keep up. Last, grinders would not want to form parties with scholar types who stand and discus the architecture/mold/living conditions of each room after they finish fighting the monsters. Conversely who wants the rest of your party charging off with out you when you want to stop and discuss the structural engineering of goblin doors.

[Kaizen]

Last, grinders would not want to form parties with scholar types who stand and discus the architecture/mold/living conditions of each room after they finish fighting the monsters. Conversely who wants the rest of your party charging off with out you when you want to stop and discuss the structural engineering of goblin doors.

I don't think you give the Sundren community enough credit.

If there are players who will level from 14-20 off Argyle and completely skip the XP and Gold EZ-mode that is Veritas because of RP (and most of the time, this kind of RP doesn't even involve inter-character RP), I'm sure there are players who will RP this kind of thing.

[Seheren]

I would be willing to bet on more players taking the RP route then Combat here, really. Even without the possibility for RP ticks while between combat, most parties I am in stop frequently to RP the ins and outs. Sometimes long enough for areas to respawn on us, which can be bad.

As long as there is still the ability to gain 'some' XP from killing things when you have the RP mode, I am all for it. Its a great suggestion.

[Lucidity]

Solution: Remove XP from game. Roleplay from the heart, not from the character sheet.

That is all.

(Joke!)

[Artemis]

I second the motion.

[Root]

Solution: Remove XP from game. Roleplay from the heart, not from the character sheet.

That is all.

(Joke!)

My heart contains a demigod with prismatic laser eyes and DR 3000/Ponies

[Artemis]

My heart contains a demigod with prismatic laser eyes and DR 3000/Ponies

Plus a Harry Potter wand.

[GodBeastX]

The Road More Traveled: Someone who takes the road more traveled perk after character creation gets a multiplier to their RP XP trickle but loses their ability to gain XP from spawns. This is for the crafters, tradesmen, merchants, scholars, pacifists, preachers, and myriad other character concepts that require advancement but realistically wouldn't go commit genocide to develop their skills. Just make sure they don't get too much, because it's a less risky path - the tradeoff is that it should be a slower one.

I like this option, I'll consider the ramifications.

Personally I'd rather you get 0 exp from kills and all exp comes from everything but killing. Give up your ability to grind exp for better progression elsewhere? I'm not mad at that.

[Kangleton]

You mean like, get XP for things like crafting, opening locks, etcetera? Non-combative use of skills?