Possible suggestion for new PRC class?

[DeathRose52]

Just to change the class topic abit, what about something of Bonded summoner type from Miniatures handbook? There classes for undead but i havent notice one for Elementals in genral. The class basicly lets you keep an Elemental at you're side and it grows as you gain level. Spell casting is 5/10 for the class as well.

[Kaizen]

Just to change the class topic abit, what about something of Bonded summoner type from Miniatures handbook? There classes for undead but i havent notice one for Elementals in genral. The class basicly lets you keep an Elemental at you're side and it grows as you gain level. Spell casting is 5/10 for the class as well.

Yes please.

Kaizen summons Elder Water Elemental:

[Kaeldorn]

For some reason, that picture reminded me of this:



Disturbing?

[Darkened Skies]

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS!

[roguethree]

Some please, please make the Elder Water Elemental look like Ursula, the Air like Genie, the Fire like Charizard, and the Earth like Thing.

[Kaeldorn]

How about this...

Air:

Genie

Fire:

Efreet Jafar

Earth:

Rock Biter (Neverending Story)

Or if we must stick with disney animations...

[Root]

no, no and god no.

Just ... avoid the class and save yourself the heartbreak and tear soaked pillows when you sleep.

Trust me on this

This. I have previously simply played a Paladin as a Triadic Knight, worshipping the Triad. I needed no class representation to do so.

A lot of classes seem to be just there needlessly, and I believe Triadic Knight is one of them. I dunno why every faith, combination of other classes, and such needs it's own PrC, but that seems to be the way of things in DnD.

Give me a Rogue/Wizard over an 'Arcane Trickster' any day.

[Thief Of Navarre]

This. I have previously simply played a Paladin as a Triadic Knight, worshipping the Triad. I needed no class representation to do so.

A lot of classes seem to be just there needlessly, and I believe Triadic Knight is one of them. I dunno why every faith, combination of other classes, and such needs it's own PrC, but that seems to be the way of things in DnD.

Give me a Rogue/Wizard over an 'Arcane Trickster' any day.

Well Arcane tricksters allow you to gain thieving skills, sneak and spellcasting in one class at the expense of not being a fighter ~ which you never were in the first place
Combine your sneak attack with wracking touch (which is a level 2 spell contrary to the wiki; level 5) and you are mobile spellslinging death!


*edit* Since we are talking custom classes. Scout base class from complete adventurer?

[Root]

Well Arcane tricksters allow you to gain thieving skills, sneak and spellcasting in one class at the expense of not being a fighter ~ which you never were in the first place

My point mainly was that I'd rather do away with Prestige Classes that can be just as well represented by Base Classes with the addition of a feat or something (Eg. replace the entire Arcane Trickster class with a feat that requires 3d6 Sneak Attack and adds your Rogue level -5 to your spellcaster level)

If it can be represented by base classes, it dosen't need a PrC, it needs feats to empower the concept.

Eldritch Knight (Fighter/Wizard), Frenzied Berserker(Crazier Barbarian), Warpriest (Fighter/Cleric) etc, all examples of this.

I still like PrC's such as Dragon Disciple, Master of Radiance, Shadowdancer, Horned Harbinger, Master of Many Forms, etc, since they tend to go outside the realms of core classes into new concepts, rather than just being a more mechanically effective way of making a multiclass character.

(Side point: I'm picking faults with the outright design of DnD 3.5 (One remedied in Pathfinder, woot), not suggesting we remove 'hybrid core' style PrC classes from this server at all.)

[Doubtful]

I'd rather you all take commoner for 5 levels and then get to select any base class as a 'PRC' style option.



(I'm joking of course)


It's three levels of commoner.

[Thief Of Navarre]

My point mainly was that I'd rather do away with Prestige Classes that can be just as well represented by Base Classes with the addition of a feat or something (Eg. replace the entire Arcane Trickster class with a feat that requires 3d6 Sneak Attack and adds your Rogue level -5 to your spellcaster level)

If it can be represented by base classes, it dosen't need a PrC, it needs feats to empower the concept.

Eldritch Knight (Fighter/Wizard), Frenzied Berserker(Crazier Barbarian), Warpriest (Fighter/Cleric) etc, all examples of this.

I still like PrC's such as Dragon Disciple, Master of Radiance, Shadowdancer, Horned Harbinger, Master of Many Forms, etc, since they tend to go outside the realms of core classes into new concepts, rather than just being a more mechanically effective way of making a multiclass character.

(Side point: I'm picking faults with the outright design of DnD 3.5 (One remedied in Pathfinder, woot), not suggesting we remove 'hybrid core' style PrC classes from this server at all.)

Like ascetic rogue (rogue/monk synergy) or Daring Outlaw (rogue/swash)....welllll pretty much all the class synergy feats from complete scoundrel! I'd be up for some of that instead of new PrCs - Sure!

[Root]

Like ascetic rogue (rogue/monk synergy) or Daring Outlaw (rogue/swash)....welllll pretty much all the class synergy feats from complete scoundrel! I'd be up for some of that instead of new PrCs - Sure!

Yep yep, my point exactly. You don't need an entire PrC when a feat can do it.

Heck, Shadowdancer in NWN could be replaced by giving Rogues HiPS as a bonus feat at 10th or above. In PnP it has cooler stuff that separates it, though.

I mean, RP wise, there's little difference between a Fighter with all the focus feats for a single weapon, and a Weapon Master.

[Biohazard89]

I'd rather you all take commoner for 5 levels and then get to select any base class as a 'PRC' style option.



(I'm joking of course)


It's three levels of commoner.

OOOHHHHH howabout an epic lvl commoner beating the shit out of stuff :P

[Root]

OOOHHHHH howabout an epic lvl commoner beating the shit out of stuff :P

An epic level commoner would still get its arse kicked in Viridale.

Imagine a Wizard.

Now kill its Fortitude save, make its base stats all 9-11, and take away its spells.

This is a commoner.

[Artemis]

An epic level commoner would still get its arse kicked in Viridale.

Imagine a Wizard.

Now kill its Fortitude save, make its base stats all 9-11, and take away its spells.

This is a commoner.

I resent this comment! D:<