Annoyingly Vulgar Spell Effects

[Quoth The Raven]

Firstly, client side overrides no longer work on Sundren, so sneaky overriding will not work.

Not true, you just have to know what you're doing - you can't override everything, but you surely can do it in this case.

[chupacabra]

I found the most recent post about this topic here: http://www.sundren.org/forum/showthr...=spell+effects

QTR, the Less Obtrusive Buff effects mod does not work from the override folder. I can imagine there may be a way to make it work, but I'm not the man to figure that one out, nor do I want to rock the boat!

This was Saulus' word on the topic in the last thread:

1) We restrict everything through the server so that it has to be approved by us in order for it to work. While I understand some people like using the lessened spell effects we have no plans to implement this so unfortunately you won't be able to use it.

And GBX's post:

It's kind of annoying to implement too. You end up with nearly every spell script in your module just to remove the vfx from them. Not to mention tedious.

My day would be made by toning down the bubble buff effects and making the 'skin' visuals not effect the armor/clothing the character has on. Having said that, I'm not the one doing the work!

[GodBeastX]

I think this needs to be considered spell by spell. I personally like the effects to annoy people... so they're less likely to use them.

[Machiavelli]

Beastie raises a good point. I try to avoid using anything with glowing spangly effects unless there's guaranteed to be trouble. Turning into a migraine inducing blur isn't something to be done lightly.

[DM_Equinox]

Why would ANYone want to stand around and do friendly campfire chat while maintaining protections around themselves anyway? If it wasn't for the free rest at said fire, they'd all be screwed when there is a situation where they REALLY need buffs.

*surprise dragon attack after a nice long chat around the fire*
Diedric the Mage: Hahaha, you can't hurt me I've still got Premonition and immunity to Fi- *poof* .... oops.

[Doubtful]

People who 'Apply basic wards', meaning buffing up with every long lasting spell in your book every single time that one wears off.

Just so you know - I despise you.

[Quoth The Raven]

Can we craft an item with the permanent spell effect then? In PnP it just costs spell level * caster level * 2000 gold

Weeh, permanent True Seeing, Death Ward, Displacement, Haste and Premonition!

:P

[Edhel]

Can we craft an item with the permanent spell effect then? In PnP it just costs spell level * caster level * 2000 gold

Weeh, permanent True Seeing, Death Ward, Displacement, Haste and Premonition!

:P

In PnP it's also very limited and specific as to what spells can be applied permanent to yourself, objects or others.

[Cornuto]

2000 gold in PnP is different than 2000 gold in NWN2

[TheBlankStare]

In PnP it's also very limited and specific as to what spells can be applied permanent to yourself, objects or others.

Yep. But it actually costs XP not gold.

And . . .

Spells cast on other creatures, objects, or locations (not on you) are vulnerable to dispel magic as normal.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/permanency.htm

[Quoth The Raven]

That's Permanency-ed spells... I was talking about putting a permanent spell effect on an item, using the crafting rules

Anyway I wasn't serious.

[Tome]

I for one would love to see elimination of nearly all buff spell visual effects. The 6 secs/CL ones I'd keep, as well as perhaps a few others like MAYBE mirror image. Invisibilty and etheral should still produce an effect. Removing most of the others would cut down a little on lag time and personally I think a holy knight/insane wizard/etc look cooler in battle when they DON'T look like a mushroom-induced hallucination (Don't judge me).

I can't deny though that most of the reasons given for keeping the effects are still good ones. Plus, if they're a pain in the rear to remove, there are better things to focus on.

[Root]

I do dislike bubbles, but something should be kept to indicate that the person is covered in magic.

And I'm with Doubtful. You don't need buffs up to sit at a campfire!