Common Courtesy

[cmosier]

Hmm... we are getting into the very thing this thread was meant to remedy. It is suppose to be about respecting one another and their characters. I can go into gobs of Forgotten Realm lore.... but does any of that really matter?

I was more or less hoping to get other peoples ideas on how we can work on treating each other.

Note: Get Sehron away from Yashia, and he is very elven...

Disclaimer: Lauan Tissle was not harmed during the writing of this post.

Question: There is a book on elven sexuality?

[Skro]

Question: There is a book on elven sexuality?

Not really, there is some third party books adding information about FR Sexuality and dice rolls about sexual acts, pregnancy and that.

[Gamling]

You just have to let players play their characters, no matter how much you might disagree with them, or not like their characters. I think the rule, "Treat others the way you want to be treated." Applies. Don't tell someone how to run their character and hopefully they won't tell you how to run yours.

[sharringtonm]

Yeah RP policing is the sole right of the DMs. Even says so somewhere under the rules.

WE'll handle the elves with blue pubic hair, or the people who were denied Dragon Disciple PrC and still insist they have true sight, and the spirit Shamans with ESP cause their spirit tells them what people are thinking.

Its our job to handle this.

Its your job to have fun.

[Gabryal]

always remember to just Roll use rope and ignore it if you don't want to go along with someone's RP, no one makes you take their word for it

[Demathos]

First, I'm flattered that I just scanned over this thread to see my own name mentioned so positively. It's really encouraging, and I'm very appreciative of the kind words.

Second, I think that the entire point of all of this, if I am not mistaken, can be fulfilled by basic empathy. If we all just think to ourselves "Is the person I'm RP'ing with having as much fun as me?", I think that covers all grounds and variants of curtesy. I'm a Thayan bastard with a slave Knight, but I try to make sure that said slave is having as much fun as me, because that's why we're all here, right? The RP can be twisted and sadistic at times, but what is all that realism worth if only half the people present find it compelling or interesting? It's worth nothing.

Whether you follow traditional FR stuff, or whether you feel free to interpret various things, just try make sure that the liberties you're taking on your own aren't ones that are going to ruin anyone elses fun. This is a community, and we should all work to really emphasise that point by using a bit of empathy, and playing for the community rather than just for ourselves. It will add a lot to the fun atmosphere, and that is the best form of curtesy I can come up with.

[Elusa]

The best method of showing your distaste for a person's character concept and/or stupidity is to not roleplay with them. I don't mean ignore them, just don't go into any worthwhile discussions. If they roll a bluff instead of a diplomacy check, they either fail or succeed on an action that never took place. Now, in my opinion, everyone should stick with the general stereotypes with minor alterations unless they have a good IC reason not to. But I'm not going to go around demanding that people change their characters.

For the record, Elusa has blue pubic hair. It matches her hair. Whether I'm joking or not, I guess you'll have to find out.

[cmosier]

Have yet another...

Thou shalt respect the opposing player of a CvC combat.

That goes for winners and losers. Winning a CvC battle does not give you an "Act Like a Douche Free" card. Talk with each other through tells and try to make sure everything is cool.

It also takes a big person to lose. Remember, a lot of it has to do with luck as well. I have rolled 8 rolls under four in a row before... It's the way the dice roll. Winning or Losing isn't always the more skilled or smarter player, sometimes it's just the luckiest.

I am not sure if all this is covered in the Rules section, if it is, please bare with me. Thanks.

[Elusa]

Regarding CvC combat, remember that certain classes just aren't built for CvC. Spellcasters in particular are pretty useless in close range without buffs. Rogues on the other hand can take you down to 0 health and paralyze you in an instant if you're flat-footed, but are a pain in PvE. There's no class or build that's going to excel in every situation; it's how you roleplay it that's important. Losing is always better than winning. It develops your character a ton more than just winning all the time.

Remember the real life rule: There's always someone stronger or smarter than you are. No exceptions.

[cmosier]

Thou shalt give credit where credit is due.

This is just a reminder, several people work hard on this server, let them know how much you enjoy it, there is even a Thread for it. In fact I am heading to said thread after this.

[TheBrogueadier]

Thou shall not tell others how to play their characters.
I have had tells saying that Sehron wasn't Elven, Chaotic, Good, or Rougish enough.

I would just like to take this, tie some ribbons and bells to it and shake it around for more people to see.

[kovah]

Okay, ware the new guy. I, personally, wouldn't object to some constructive criticism of my roleplaying. I'm a complete noob to all of this. Never played pen & paper, though I owned the 3.5 Players Handbook. I've read around 50 Forgotten Realms novels and love that world above all others except maybe George RR Martin's. Anyway, just saying that not everyone is above a helping hand.

[Llew Hy]

*Shameless Plug*http://www.sundren.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8332

[kovah]

And I've read that. Was just saying.

[Urithrand]

If you don't mind, I'd like to add one here;

Thou shalt not bitch about DM intervention or game mechanics constantly.

Sorry, it just irritates me when some powergamer starts bombarding me with tells about how unfair this was or that was. We're all playing the same game by the same rules, deal with it. DMs do not get where they are by being an ass and favouring some characters over others.

On the second note, the rolls are random. Always. Not weighted, nor fixed nor unfair. If you don't like the D&D game mechanics, play something easy. afaik, Sundren is not supposed to be easy in any way.