It'd be a dispelfest, then to see whoever can get a death save off first. (Implosion ftw.)
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I was thinking that the cleric just harm touches off the bat on the caster's crap AC and hopes to land it, then tries to nuke before the dispel/nuke from the sorc. Eh, would be fun to watchOriginally posted by Scarlett View PostIt'd be a dispelfest, then to see whoever can get a death save off first. (Implosion ftw.)
Dhaot Stoneshadow - Fledgling Wizard.
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It seems in all this anti-buffing talk we are forgetting the Warlock...
Ow... OW... OUCH!!!
Back on topic: Fubarz UI attached (seems we have the same tastes)Last edited by Grigori; 04-05-2007, 04:49 PM.
Maleficus "Ravenor" Carnificis
"Dreams... such fertile ground for the seeds of torment. I can sense your ripeness and, oddly enough, it is time for the harvest. Please, save your tears... I intend to reap your sorrow slowly and have ages to discover the things that make you suffer... I am eager to revel in the sweet melody of your screams and the melancholy of your despair..."
Eldraxus Tzyvioq
Mystic Theurge (and Harper) of Deneir wandering the Sundered Valley in search of (and with the intention of mapping out) places of power, ley-line intersections, and other locations where the divine and arcane intersect...
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Clerics have one advantage over high lvl mages... they can wear plate and can bash the hell out of the wizard/sorc after both sides have used up all their dispels and gotten rid of buffs and used up offensive spells. Plus harm is bugged and has no save and auto hits... If I ever end up in a PvP with an evil cleric I'm going all out, no holds barred, kill them as fast as possible with no mercy.
Btw if my PC sees a good cleric use harm and cause wounds spells, except in the most dire situations, that will raise eyebrows.
Give a well built and buffed EK a decent ASF free armor and they can give clerics a run for their money though. They can out melee clerics while casting nearly as well as pure mages.PC - Corwin Eska'las (Sun Elf pursuing the dream of becoming a Bladesinger)
Alt PC - Brevin Smoothands (meticulously groomed half orc bard swashbuckler... sort of... sings great, less fighting)

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If a caster is smart they cast spell mantel, making the harm attack useless.
Also to note, there is a domain that could have been overpowered in NWN2, but fortunatly (or unfortunatly, depending on how you look at it) persistent spell did not work with the Domain spell, otherwise you'd have clerics with a 24 hour lasting divine power, along with their 24 hour lasting divine favour. And... maybe I shouldn't have pointed that out...
*debates changing his post and keeping that info to his evil self*Last edited by crazyjerren; 02-27-2007, 08:20 PM.
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Not sure about that...it'd depend who got the first spell off. Destruction or Implosion could instantly end a EK if they just fought with no buffs bared. Otherwise, who knows. Also, due to Divine Power and Favor, I REALLY, really doubt they can outmelee clerics...Originally posted by Ithildur View PostClerics have one advantage over high lvl mages... they can wear plate and can bash the hell out of the wizard/sorc after both sides have used up all their dispels and gotten rid of buffs and used up offensive spells. Plus harm is bugged and has no save and auto hits... If I ever end up in a PvP with an evil cleric I'm going all out, no holds barred, kill them as fast as possible with no mercy.
Btw if my PC sees a good cleric use harm and cause wounds spells, except in the most dire situations, that will raise eyebrows.
Give a well built and buffed EK a decent ASF free armor and they can give clerics a run for their money though. They can out melee clerics while casting nearly as well as pure mages.
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What's with the warlock, only played it a bit.. but it's one hell of a weak class as far as I knowOriginally posted by Grigori View PostIt seems in all this anti-buffing talk we are forgetting the Warlock...
Fret and fear, for Europe is near.
Desmonia Flashir
GBX: I'm a level 20 programmer for sure in real life. I know more about CPU's, software, Windows, etc, than most people know about their own children.
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That's mostly due to missing feats...it's a change from other casters though. :O
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My UI; Which isn't being used for much- Yet.
"Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man."
- Bertrand Russell
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But what about the fighter!? *grins*Originally posted by crazyjerren View PostIf a caster is smart they cast spell mantel, making the harm attack useless.
Also to note, there is a domain that could have been overpowered in NWN2, but fortunatly (or unfortunatly, depending on how you look at it) persistent spell did not work with the Domain spell, otherwise you'd have clerics with a 24 hour lasting divine power, along with their 24 hour lasting divine favour. And... maybe I shouldn't have pointed that out...
*debates changing his post and keeping that info to his evil self*
Fighter: *charges Cleric* Yaaaah!
Cleric: *harm*
Fighter: *cries*
Cleric: *pokes*
Fighter: *dies*Current Characters: n/a
Old Characters: Kai Nightwind; Ivtanier Silvermoon
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I'm still waiting for DragonUI to get 1.04 compatibility. After that, I'll be one happy camper...
Wait, I think that particular one needs to be serverside... Darn. Hrmm, maybe I'll check out that Charlie UI.Character(s)
>Olin Lavith - Human scholar with a passion for knowledge.
Don't change the color to match the walls. Look like you belong and the walls will change color to match you.
?Kender Proverb, Time of the Twins
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All I will say on this is: Read your manual. Voracious Dispelling and Devour Magic... not to mention, with the correct feats on a Warlock, it's very useful and if used smartly as a support character, can bring the entire party to constant success. I am currently looking at Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Battle Caster, Combat Casting, Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration but may vary this depending on what I figure out when I look at stat-management.Originally posted by Clutch View PostWhat's with the warlock, only played it a bit.. but it's one hell of a weak class as far as I know

Maleficus "Ravenor" Carnificis
"Dreams... such fertile ground for the seeds of torment. I can sense your ripeness and, oddly enough, it is time for the harvest. Please, save your tears... I intend to reap your sorrow slowly and have ages to discover the things that make you suffer... I am eager to revel in the sweet melody of your screams and the melancholy of your despair..."
Eldraxus Tzyvioq
Mystic Theurge (and Harper) of Deneir wandering the Sundered Valley in search of (and with the intention of mapping out) places of power, ley-line intersections, and other locations where the divine and arcane intersect...
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Maleficus "Ravenor" Carnificis
"Dreams... such fertile ground for the seeds of torment. I can sense your ripeness and, oddly enough, it is time for the harvest. Please, save your tears... I intend to reap your sorrow slowly and have ages to discover the things that make you suffer... I am eager to revel in the sweet melody of your screams and the melancholy of your despair..."
Eldraxus Tzyvioq
Mystic Theurge (and Harper) of Deneir wandering the Sundered Valley in search of (and with the intention of mapping out) places of power, ley-line intersections, and other locations where the divine and arcane intersect...
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