Anyone know if Insightful Strike (3rd level swashbuckler ability) works with unarmed? Unarmed attacks DO work with weapon finese.
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Just checked, yes, it seems that the damage is applied added to unarmed strike.Eira Skald - Icy bitch.
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If you could merge Ice Fury, Swashbuckler & Monk.. Well... Silliness.Eira Skald - Icy bitch.
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You could merge sacred fist... which is what I was going for. Druid / Swash / SF / IF, possibly. I was really trying to come up with a speed of foot build, not a powerbuild though. Anyway, thanks"Microsoft has to move the Reply All button further away from the Reply button. It's the computer equivalent of putting the vagina so close to the sphincter."
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That could work as well
I always fancied playing a pugalist - Not a martial artist, but a bar-room brawler, braggard and thug - Specialist weapon: Broken Bottle, or fists.
Day job of being a Hod carrier, butcher or something.Eira Skald - Icy bitch.
Karsten Mannerheim - Idealist and murderer.
Vincent Hopkins - Witch Hunter and man of faith.
Aedan Gilter - Dreamer of broken dreams.
Henry L. Jones - Oh god, I can see forever.
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Yeah a brawler class would be loads of fun, though I suspect forcing fists into the lawful alignment arena has something to do with balancing the classes."Microsoft has to move the Reply All button further away from the Reply button. It's the computer equivalent of putting the vagina so close to the sphincter."
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I am not sure balance had any thing to do with Monks being Lawful, as another DM (GBX?) spoke about how thieves could be Lawful if they followed strict guild rules and a hierarchy. Monks are Lawful for the same reason, strict self discipline and a rigid temple hierarchy, which is why you can get Sun Soul monks who worship Selune, a Chaotic deitiy.
When a brawler class/PrC was first brought up I did not think it such a great idea either. However, if you force them in to Chaotic, and limit the damage they do with fists to some where between a ordinary person and a Monk, loose all the speciality Monk feats and replace them with a brawlers subset... Dirty Rat, Dodge, "improvised weapon", "low blow" (for a chance to stun), "drunken bonus"(if they start fighting while drunk)... Force an armour restriction on them, none or light, no shield. Heck it could be the only PrC you could take at first level as the only real prerequisite is the ability to get drunk/stoned or otherwise wasted.
Not suggesting it should be done, just how it could be.
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Originally posted by grant View PostI am not sure balance had any thing to do with Monks being Lawful, as another DM (GBX?) spoke about how thieves could be Lawful if they followed strict guild rules and a hierarchy. Monks are Lawful for the same reason, strict self discipline and a rigid temple hierarchy, which is why you can get Sun Soul monks who worship Selune, a Chaotic deitiy.
When a brawler class/PrC was first brought up I did not think it such a great idea either. However, if you force them in to Chaotic, and limit the damage they do with fists to some where between a ordinary person and a Monk, loose all the speciality Monk feats and replace them with a brawlers subset... Dirty Rat, Dodge, "improvised weapon", "low blow" (for a chance to stun), "drunken bonus"(if they start fighting while drunk)... Force an armour restriction on them, none or light, no shield. Heck it could be the only PrC you could take at first level as the only real prerequisite is the ability to get drunk/stoned or otherwise wasted.
Not suggesting it should be done, just how it could be.Originally posted by roguethreeIf I had my way, clerics would have spell failure and a d6 hit die. And Favored Souls wouldn't exist.
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I played on a server that actually had a brawler class. It pretty much had the same fist progression as monk. Damage and adamintine. But they got a bonus feat like a fighter every four levels. They get heavy armor profeciency, though, take penalties for using a shield I beleive. Or get a bonus for it. I can't really remember...Last edited by Gamling; 12-22-2009, 05:50 AM.Lauan - knight of Thay " I have no fear, and death is merely an inconvenience to me. I do not die until ordered to do so, I do not fall until every last bit of life has left me. I stand tall, proud, a Thayan knight."
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