Do you feel your character can make a difference?

[GodBeastX]

I've been wondering about this awhile and talked to a few people. I'd like some player feedback on how they feel their characters impact the world. While utterly destroying a faction isn't likely to happen from one person's attempt, I often wonder if people feel like they're not making any real impact on the world.

(Note, dungeons tend not to be cleaned out for obvious reasons)

So here is the poll. Do you feel like your character can impact the world or do you think your hands are tied?

[gbbishop]

umm where is the poll?

sending a pm.

[GodBeastX]

*Points above the thread* You might have saw the thread while I was putting the poll options in. The forum posts then asks for the poll options. You're just very speedy

[gbbishop]

i see it now!

but i cant vote for either extreme....

[Oggy]

Of course my character can. This charming person has at least showed to some tasteless persons here, what does the word fashion really mean. I do not doubt that I'll become the first Queen here, because the ordinary people love me and men would die just to kiss my foot! Ooo .. Queen Lilly the First and Only! Sounds pretty good, doesn't it?

[Subal]

While most things i feel my characters do will not change the Physical form or the entire server. I Do feel through Rp my characters have changed players in various ways, which in essence changes Sundren as a whole.

[BedlamX]

Hhmmm...

I feel some characters can change things. Just not any of mine. All mine are either apathetic, shadowy, or so structured to one specific purpose (and that is to keep things as they are in Ursus' case) that they just won't try.

Now, if you mean characters in general, I think they all have the chance of making changes if they really want to and try. Global (at least server-wide global) changes would be an epic undertaking and, personally, I don't think any single character should be able to make such changes. Now, a group of like-minded characters, all working diligently towards a change...different story and should eventually be able to make such changes. It should not happen over night, but it should be possible. I don't believe much in the whole "one man can make a difference" idea (bonus geek points to anyone who knows where the quote comes from :P ).

[Kaeldorn]

I left.. but as it was one of my main reasons for leaving, I decided to vote anyway..

The environment offers little incentive to change much unless you're an anarchist, and for the rest the world is so stable and the story set in stone that when you do try to significantly influence anything that wasn't envisioned by a DM to begin with, it's usually subtly spun in some other direction where a slight illusion of minor success is given so that it doesn't interfere with the bigger picture.

It most often can't really be translated to the intended goal, despite any future efforts, brilliant ideas and possible unforeseen plot holes/opportunities a player attempts to take advantage of in a reasonable way. The result is that players mostly go for the wait and see and play along attitude. Sadly they will often play along even despite their supposed ethos, just to have something to do.

That's how I felt about it, at least.

[Saulus]

I left.. but as it was one of my main reasons for leaving, I decided to vote anyway..

The environment offers little incentive to change much unless you're an anarchist, and for the rest the world is so stable and the story set in stone that when you do try to significantly influence anything that wasn't envisioned by a DM to begin with, it's usually subtly spun in some other direction where a slight illusion of minor success is given so that it doesn't interfere with the bigger picture.

It most often can't really be translated to the intended goal, despite any future efforts, brilliant ideas and possible unforeseen plot holes/opportunities a player attempts to take advantage of in a reasonable way. The result is that players mostly go for the wait and see and play along attitude. Sadly they will often play along even despite their supposed ethos, just to have something to do.

That's how I felt about it, at least.

Well, with stats like this:

Highest Character Play Time
CHARACTER NAME TIME ON
Yashia Jadysvarion 105.99 Days

I can see how you might feel that way.

[Phantom Lamb]

I think it's important we concentrate on current events and players. We have changed things recently, and continue to do so. History is important, and we can learn lessons from it. But if it's simply sour grapes, it won't be helpful.

[Kaeldorn]

Well, with stats like this
I can see how you might feel that way.

With stats like those, you'd think one would have seen a lot of what went on on the server. In terms of story and player interactivity regarding it.

My comments here are by no means intended as any form of sabotage or grudges or anything, but I think my arguments given aren't dated. When I logged on to talk to some people last month, they still said the same.

But that's that. Even if you want to substract mine from the poll, the votes should say something..

[Saulus]

With stats like those, you'd think one would have seen a lot of what went on on the server. In terms of story and player interactivity regarding it.

My comments here are by no means intended as any form of sabotage or grudges or anything, but I think my arguments given aren't dated. When I logged on to talk to some people last month, they still said the same.

But that's that. Even if you want to substract mine from the poll, the votes should say something..

No those stats make you very disconnected from reality because no one can spend that much time as one character without a completely skewed perspective.

[Maevan2]

No those stats make you very disconnected from reality because no one can spend that much time as one character without a completely skewed perspective.

*grins*

[GodBeastX]

I just want to say, we're taking the responses very seriously and your votes are being heard. I think 50% of the discussions today have been how to empower players more (As well as how to kill another of Maeven's PCs).

[richardleitch5]

Maybe I’m getting the wrong message here but what you seem to be saying is that anyone who played one PC more than X amount of time cant voice their opinion here. Hopefully I’m just reading the last statement wrong.

As for the voting I would say that giving only three options (yes, no, maybe) is not enough to get an accrete answer, in some events iv felt it was set in stone and nothing would change the outcome but other events seemed open to changing as they progressed. Within the offered choices I would go with nothing I do will change things despite the fact that I have indeed changed at least one thing, it’s just that 99% of the time I get the feeling I can’t, or that anything I do change will be small and insignificant to be forgotten soon after.