Loot Jacking

[nickbeat]

Oh, I get that we are forced to explain this obvious courtesy. I just question why players require such admonitions. I'm really starting to appreciate the fact that we have rather vengeful DMs.

[valenator]

They're the best kind. Mix equal parts experienced player and omnipotence to craft.

[Elusa]

I'd say it shouldn't be allowed at all to steal loot from one-time-only bosses. Otherwise, any rogue with a half decent sleight of hand skill can follow low level groups around, 'helping them' and then steal the loot. It doesn't matter if the newbies get it in their hands first, the rogue then just pickpockets them. If you're going to steal or pickpocket a group to make an IC point, make sure they know about it in a tell, and don't take the rare drops.

Of course, I don't advocate ever guiding a group through a quest. I've been guilty of shadowing them, helping if they were going to die if I didn't step in. But then, Elusa's a druid with wildshape. Cat form or docile wolf form works wonders. The problem is, if you help them through a quest that they couldn't have done on their own, they don't learn anything, they don't overcome any obstacles, and they don't deserve the rare loot. Neither do you. So it puts you in a paradox situation as to who gets the loot.

[Urithrand]

Can I just add that it's not just noobs and gems that common curtesy applies to. I rather frequently get shafted, fighting enemies on all sides while some other member of my party skips about looting corpses, joining in the fight after everything they want is safely within their pack. If I wasn't playing a neutral good character, I'd have IC cut someone's head off by now, it's totally impolite. It's really not hard to play fair and share!

Edit: Just realised there is another thread along these lines, but I stand by my point

[sharringtonm]

We've run our course on this thread and the point is out there. Lets close this thread while it remains positive.