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Wow, so many posts with people blowing sunshine up their own asses like they aren't the ones doing anything wrong. I can probably pick a time each and every person who has posted in that thread has done something completely non-condusive to an RP server, including myself (Drow Vampire *Coughs*). So before we start attacking other people's play styles, why don't we shut up and ask ourselves "When I'm around a campfire, why doesn't anyone want to be around it with me?"
And I'll give you guys a reality check. A harsh one. Some of you DMs do not like at all. I'm not saying "Some of you who posted in that thread" I mean some of the players on Sundren which includes people who post on forums and people who don't, and I'll tell you the symptoms of it. The people who are always complaining, OOC starting crap with people, always run by people at the necropolis to make exp as fast as possible, always worrying experience isn't high enough, always making character designs that just annoy people "I want to be a guy who isn't afraid of anyone or anything and always is tough!", always ask dumb questions to the DMs that are written plain as day on the forums, always thinks they are the exception to our policies, like when races or classes are closed, always come up with character concepts that are 'different' but they just end up stupid, always argue with DM decisions, and always complains about other people's play styles when they are the problem. These people are usually assholes in RL too. Like someone nobody wants to deal with in the real world so they get in game and act the same.
The DM decision arguing is the worst. If I suddenly decide all the gods are dead, they are. If I say the sky is green, it is. If I say down is up and up is down, then you better believe it. I don't mind suggestions, because frankly, I don't know everything about FR, but I read alot just to keep things as straight as possible.
Then there's people who login with refreshingly great characters that I can't help but hand exp to for being so awesome. For example, I watched a cleric of Ilmater at Sharahan Hills. She was in a robe (Not armor) with a stick, praying to consecrate land and bodies after undead were around, speaking Ilmater alot, and generally being a priest. It was so refreshing to see a cleric who wasn't a warrior with spells.
Then you got people who think they're good RP'ers who will have certain death in their faces and laugh. Or a DM will change up a dungeon and they point it out IC, "Gee George! That doesn't normally happen! Normally the hard undead are only in the UPPER necropolis, why would they EVER actually come outside?" <-- This actually happened.
Do you know why I stopped running plots for people out grinding? I ran a plot where a ghost was haunting a group, and half the group tried to ignore it and keep farming experience as if it wasn't there. I had to literally almost kill one of the party members to get them to stop grinding and pay attention. That isn't the first or last time that has happened with parties, but it was the one that turned me off to events for grinders.
Oh, and this leapfrogger who I confronted. I was like "That's against the rules, why are you doing that?" They replied with, "People kept doing it to me so I just do it now." I have no idea why people don't report stuff to DMs.
"But GBX, I'd NEVER do something like what you posted above!" Like I said, I can probably pick out something each of us have done.
So what is the point of this rant? Simple. None of you (or me) are perfect, and everyone has a great deal of room for improvement. Don't go attacking other people as if you are blameless. I can tell you right now, it's not the level 7 guy's fault the max levels are being changed. Why not self examine and do everything you can to try to be fun and make the game fun for others with RP.
AND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! EVERYONE STOP TRYING TO BE LICHES! Next person I see working toward being a lich is going to die on the spot. It's like, everybody and their mom who is a wizard wants to be a lich or have an army of undead. UGGGGGH.
And I'll give you guys a reality check. A harsh one. Some of you DMs do not like at all. I'm not saying "Some of you who posted in that thread" I mean some of the players on Sundren which includes people who post on forums and people who don't, and I'll tell you the symptoms of it. The people who are always complaining, OOC starting crap with people, always run by people at the necropolis to make exp as fast as possible, always worrying experience isn't high enough, always making character designs that just annoy people "I want to be a guy who isn't afraid of anyone or anything and always is tough!", always ask dumb questions to the DMs that are written plain as day on the forums, always thinks they are the exception to our policies, like when races or classes are closed, always come up with character concepts that are 'different' but they just end up stupid, always argue with DM decisions, and always complains about other people's play styles when they are the problem. These people are usually assholes in RL too. Like someone nobody wants to deal with in the real world so they get in game and act the same.
The DM decision arguing is the worst. If I suddenly decide all the gods are dead, they are. If I say the sky is green, it is. If I say down is up and up is down, then you better believe it. I don't mind suggestions, because frankly, I don't know everything about FR, but I read alot just to keep things as straight as possible.
Then there's people who login with refreshingly great characters that I can't help but hand exp to for being so awesome. For example, I watched a cleric of Ilmater at Sharahan Hills. She was in a robe (Not armor) with a stick, praying to consecrate land and bodies after undead were around, speaking Ilmater alot, and generally being a priest. It was so refreshing to see a cleric who wasn't a warrior with spells.
Then you got people who think they're good RP'ers who will have certain death in their faces and laugh. Or a DM will change up a dungeon and they point it out IC, "Gee George! That doesn't normally happen! Normally the hard undead are only in the UPPER necropolis, why would they EVER actually come outside?" <-- This actually happened.
Do you know why I stopped running plots for people out grinding? I ran a plot where a ghost was haunting a group, and half the group tried to ignore it and keep farming experience as if it wasn't there. I had to literally almost kill one of the party members to get them to stop grinding and pay attention. That isn't the first or last time that has happened with parties, but it was the one that turned me off to events for grinders.
Oh, and this leapfrogger who I confronted. I was like "That's against the rules, why are you doing that?" They replied with, "People kept doing it to me so I just do it now." I have no idea why people don't report stuff to DMs.
"But GBX, I'd NEVER do something like what you posted above!" Like I said, I can probably pick out something each of us have done.
So what is the point of this rant? Simple. None of you (or me) are perfect, and everyone has a great deal of room for improvement. Don't go attacking other people as if you are blameless. I can tell you right now, it's not the level 7 guy's fault the max levels are being changed. Why not self examine and do everything you can to try to be fun and make the game fun for others with RP.
AND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! EVERYONE STOP TRYING TO BE LICHES! Next person I see working toward being a lich is going to die on the spot. It's like, everybody and their mom who is a wizard wants to be a lich or have an army of undead. UGGGGGH.
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