Love on Sundren.

[deepshades]

Alright, after seeing that 90% of the follow up on this topic is not even contemplative thought on it, but merely pure resistance. I give up, I think I'm gonna convert from Hanali to something else I'm not sure what.

[Aux]

Alright, after seeing that 90% of the follow up on this topic is not even contemplative thought on it, but merely pure resistance. I give up, I think I'm gonna convert from Hanali to something else I'm not sure what.

I dont need to contemplate and its not pure resistance, i think most of us here have been playing rpg's long enough to already have made our minds up.. and also, in my case, are set in their ways.

[Blue_Wyrm]

You know, the topic's only been up for 35 minutes, there's just been a massive amount of response to it. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll find someone interested in starting something up.

[Rhifox]

Just because it isn't public doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I know that while my character doesn't have any permanent relationships so far, I've flirted with quite a few males already and gone more than that once or twice. Whether anything becomes a full blown romantic relationship though depends on who I meet and how it works out--I am not trying to force a relationship to happen, as it is something that either happens or doesn't. Albeit my character tends to be better with smaller flings instead of the commitment of a full, romantic relationship (as much as she would like one, she tends to drive people away before it gets that far due to a variety of reasons).

The problem is that this isn't really a social world, it's an adventuring one. Poetry and flowers and what have you does not particularly work due to the situations characters find themselves in. Going out to slay goblins or zombies isn't exactly the most romantic past time.

As far as the lesbian sex goes... I'd say that's largely due to the fact that relationships between two males playing female characters isn't exactly difficult to produce. It's 'oh hey you're female I'm female ooh kinky sexy time'. I've rarely ever seen any real flirtation happen between in-game female-female couples because neither has to 'win' anything, they both say yes and that's that. Most of those kind of relationships tend to be overly dramatic or far too simplistic in that regard, or often both at once (overly dramatic over the simplest things, trying too hard for the stereotypical fantasy relationship instead of something more real and tangible).

It would be nice to get some more outgoing males though. Too many gentlemen and equal treatment out there (there's a reason many female players love Bishop from the OC instead of Casavir. Nice guy flowers and poetry is nice, but a rough and dominant bad boy male figure is extremely attractive). I very much like seeing males that actually realize my character is female and act such, expressing lust in some form, or seeing my character as weak just because of gender, and so on. Most people seem to be too goody goody though.

[deepshades]

Ooookay allow me to rephrase that, I give up because so many people have already made up their minds.

Wow same outcome. I almost feel dumb for retyping out the updated version.

I did already state that if I were an adventurer... and I could have some warmth ....

Well lets take Conan the Barbarian for example..

A fine example.. yes his woman died.. yes they were in love and it guided his characters actions for a long time.

He was a thief and definitely living the life that many players are. Just a thought.

[Aux]

Bloke ^^^




Seriously though, i expect the Banites even now are preparing to kidnap your women/men-folk.

[Raksha]

In my case, it's a simple willingness to divorce myself from Tamara and let her be her own person. If she sees someone that she likes, she'll go after them, regardless of issues regarding who's "playing" them. In this respect, internet anonymity makes things easier than they would be in, say, a normal DnD game.

There are a lot of people who aren't willing to do this, though, and make little seperation between the personal pronoun "I" and their character "he/she/it". Sometimes I fall into this trap too, and in my brief forays into the morass known as the social server section, it seems as though characters are viewed solely as avatars of their player most of the time -- which causes no end of trouble.

I understand people who don't want to mess with romance, because it's a lot of work and emotional investment even if you're completely seperate from your character. Same deal as a story with a romance in it, with even greater participation on your end. However, I will say that Tamara's assorted and failed attempts to find Someone have yielded a lot of fun RP, both with the people involved and with everyone else, as they've been really formative in her character.

(Tamara's player, by the way, remains a hardcore Tam + Alyrian 'shipper. :P)

Also, a vote for Myrddin to be the most commonly brought-up male in the Who's Cute And Available conversation among female characters. ^_^

[Blue_Wyrm]

Ah, political correctness, when you hold us...

Quite frankly, Roger will not hesitate to salivate outgoingly to women in public (I already buggered Salisse enough near the campfire that she made herself invisible *giggles*), but I'd think thrice before slapping any character on the rear or making any "incorrect contact" as defined by our modern societies' standards, because there is always the risk that the player is a real woman, that would then be offensed, going overboard and crying to DMs about sexual abuse, cyber and whatever sillyness their threatened woman pride comes up with. It's kind of a gray area that I'd rather just not step in.

Otherwise, roleplay in the real life with your partner can be quite fun, or so I hear.

[Krya Flacongrace]

Me I keep an open mind, but there a two things that come to mind that concerns me.

A) If a player based in the RW type lines that I normally say to r-lass and then r-lass reads that (which she does every now and then) and then whole hell breaks loose.

B) Regardless of the players sex, its the age that bothers me. Im adult enough to know how to type in a clear and none cyber way (if that made sense) but not realy knowing the age of the other player makes it very uncomfortable.

For

A) The reason why I play on this server, is to RP and having a IC romance as it were is just part of the package, and could prove fun and disturbing...

[Xanderleo]

It was just slightly funny as Sylloven the vampire to run around and feed on mostly moon elf maidens... where were the men defending them?

Hey now, you know Sigrun was trying to defend a certain one.

Hmm... I didn't find any. I found plenty of paladins doing the right thing by their god, or perhaps rangers who just had some grudge against the undead

More than a grudge...unless you thought I was a moon elf maiden...twice! But that is besides other character issues at play and certain views held by him.

--

Blue Wyrm and Aux echo my sentiments about questioning the actual player gender of the female character population.

However, despite that, Sigrun's one non-intrusive (and innocent) interest in a female character was rebuffed immediately...so it's not like he's immune to feeling anything.

[Saulus]

In character relationships cause Saulus much grief as they always get taken out of character, or people revert to their base instincts.

[Iceshard5]

To be honest, i find the idea of rp'ing romance and flirtation a little bit strange, i like to keep that sort of thing for the real world. And as for cybering on nwn PW's, take it elsewhere IMO, im here to play DnD. Ive yet to see romance rp'ed well in any DnD based game. I have 'seen' it ruin real life relationships though.

What else puts me off is that many of the female characters are played by males, despite what at least a couple of them would have you think, lesbians eh...

Yeah my thoughts exactly.. Want to cyper, go on some AIM chat for all I care. But Im here to play DnD, RP all kinds of stuff, but I dont care about relationships with the "female" characters.

[Rhifox]

Ah, political correctness, when you hold us...

Quite frankly, Roger will not hesitate to salivate outgoingly to women in public (I already buggered Salisse enough near the campfire that she made herself invisible *giggles*), but I'd think thrice before slapping any character on the rear or making any "incorrect contact" as defined by our modern societies' standards, because there is always the risk that the player is a real woman, that would then be offensed, going overboard and crying to DMs about sexual abuse, cyber and whatever sillyness their threatened woman pride comes up with. It's kind of a gray area that I'd rather just not step in.

Otherwise, roleplay in the real life with your partner can be quite fun, or so I hear.

So only males playing female characters are allowed to have 'incorrect contact' happen to them, and because of the risk of offending someone you're not willing to RP your character? Please. Anyone who gets offended by that frankly shouldn't be RPing. Drama is GOOD for RP, and I'd love to be able to react to situations like that in-game. As an RL female (confirmable by Teamspeak/Ventrilo if we ever get one), I again state that I'd love to have male characters to *stop* treating me as an equal. But then, I'm a stickler for realistic experiences (that's what RP is for. It shouldn't be a perfect life, it's the ability to put yourself into situations you cannot reasonably experience IRL), and hate censorship in all forms (last thing I'll be worrying about when RPing with someone is their RL age or gender. Their character and their ability to RP immersively is the most important for me. Generally, young age and bad RP go hand in hand, but not always).

Frankly, if anything is offensive it's assuming that just because someone is actually a female player that they're going to take OOC offense at in-character actions. Don't inhibit your character because of OOC reasons--- that is frankly pretty much a form of metagaming.

[deepshades]

Okay for those of you who don't actually read all the previous posts before you add your own opinions. Allow me to post this yet again so people can read it.

No cybering involved. no cybering involved. No *@#)$ cybering. I've said that many times.

Its very easy to type "They go to sleep in the same tent, bed* Its self explanatory. Use your imaginations a bit to get around the old routine thought process of ... x is male... y is female... they are in the same bed nude so now we're forced to cyber.

Its highly annoying when people start using this as a reason.

I posted many MANY times. . "Benefits that don't need to be RP'd."
"Benefits that don't need to be RP'd".

You can keep your romance light or not, if you can't ask the other player in OOC chat what level they'd like to pursue then make sure you avoid ordering fast food because you can't be very good at that either.

[Aux]

So only males playing female characters are allowed to have 'incorrect contact' happen to them, and because of the risk of offending someone you're not willing to RP your character? Please. Anyone who gets offended by that frankly shouldn't be RPing. Drama is GOOD for RP, and I'd love to be able to react to situations like that in-game. As an RL female (confirmable by Teamspeak/Ventrilo if we ever get one), I again state that I'd love to have male characters to *stop* treating me as an equal. But then, I'm a stickler for realistic experiences (that's what RP is for. It shouldn't be a perfect life, it's the ability to put yourself into situations you cannot reasonably experience IRL), and hate censorship in all forms (last thing I'll be worrying about when RPing with someone is their RL age or gender. Their character and their ability to RP immersively is the most important for me. Generally, young age and bad RP go hand in hand, but not always).

Frankly, if anything is offensive it's assuming that just because someone is actually a female player that they're going to take OOC offense at in-character actions. Don't inhibit your character because of OOC reasons--- that is frankly pretty much a form of metagaming.

Good points, but there are people out there who do take it seriously and do get offended ooc. Then theres the parents of younger players who may see such rp'ing and take offence themselves.

Is this getting off topic?