Discussion - RP Rating System

[dashminus]

Not missing your point at all. I understand exactly what your trying to say.

Soul is correct. People just are not good at taking critiscism. It then manifest itself in behavior, bad mood, bad feelings. Unless people are willingly submitting themselves up for criticism as suggested, or like your student magazine, people don't want to hear it.

Voluteering for it would work I suppose. Even that may breed a bit of hard feelings.

Wife: "Honey, do I look fat in these jeans?"
Hubby: "Well, actually, since you are asking, they make your ass look big."
or "Well, actually, since you are asking, they make your buttocks appear of a slightly inflated nature."
*SMACK*

Either way, it is still hard to take.

[Warfire]

To toss in my two cents and hope they won't be thrown back:

There is merit to both sides of this, really. The only problem I could see is all the older players in the server (not bashing on you guys, love you!) voting only on people they know/see or the newer players just feeling too out of the circle to put in a vote.

Other than that? I think the best method of this would be a page dedicated to RP comments only. Maybe, if at all possible, allow the person whom is making the comment to be anonymous so nothing has the chance of escalating? Just some ideas.

[nutranurse]

I was worried about the cliques developing too.
Hence why I aim to make Rook argue with everyone out there! Levels aside!

But back to the point: I really do see what you are saying here, Warfire. The older players might frown down upon the newer ones who offer criticism, and since I can only attest to what I will do I will say this much: If this RP rating thing does happen, I would open myself to others to bash Rook or any of the other characters that me or my sister play. I just hope we can find other players who are willing to take some criticism about what they create.

[undeadsteak]

I doubt Sundren has so many players that cliques will devolp. Im hoping it'll never have too many people, as over populated servers always have cliques

[Poor_Otis]

Alright, you seem to miss the point that I am trying to make here:

In the Literary Magazine that I happen to be the Editor-in-chief for we get tons (I wish >_>) of submissions from the other students. We have yet to simply tell them that we hate their writing then reject their pieces. What we do is offer constructive comments on the piece and tell that what should be improved and what we like.

Now how does this pertain to this topic? I would like for people to offer constructive criticism which does not boil down to "O wow, you are so good" or "You suck." If you think the person sucks, then tell them why you think so. And keep these reasons as un-bias as possible.

And if you are too soft/attached to your characters to recieve constructive criticism, then I really must wonder why you would play on-line where you interact with tons of people who may/may not like what your mind spawns. (NOTE! I am not saying that any of us are soft/too attached.) I hardly think this is the case with many on the forums, and if so, then I would rather that these people not be here.

Once again, the only place we all can go is up, and someone who is too attached to what they manage to think of is only dooming themselves as they cannot improve as well as they could if they did accept criticism.

Difference here is that you aren't the editor in chief, nor are any of the players who would be able to make ratings and comments. If DMs want to rate players, for their eyes only, they can have at it.

I like the idea in theory, but think I agree with the folks who are voicing apprehension. I agree that the potential downside(s) far outweigh the potential upside.

Just another 2 cents...

[Esteten]

I'd say that it's a lovelly idea, as long as you can choose not to be able to be rated. Some people are worthless on taking critisism, even if it's constructive and put in a good way.

I, for one, would -love- to be able to see what people really think about my RP, and I'd love to discuss others RP, since it's almost only critisicm, or pats on your back, which can make you better.
And I do hope that the veterans wouldn't despite the newcommers. Not everyone can love you

I also like the idea about a DM-only note! great way to show DM's where your character is headed.

[Kendaric]

A system like this can cause a lot frustration, especially among inexperienced RPers, and like Aux said it can lead to elitism which can hardly be a good thing for the community. Letting players rate eachother can very easily become a source of grief, especially if players can view the rating or even worse can see who gave which rating.

A forum thread with recognition for outstanding RP may be a far better solution, at the very least it is less open for abuse and would cause less frustration.

[Machiavelli]

In the words of the horse from Ren & Stimpy "No sir, I don't like it". I want to be able to powergame and use L33tspeak in peace without having to worry about snide commentary directed at my so called "roleplaying" from whoever takes exception to my behaviour . But seriously... perhaps this is a good idea, but it seems like the sort of thing that might encourage or reward cliqueyness (and nothing is worse for an RP server than serious cliques). It seems likely to me that such a system will lead to RP buddies reinforcing each others behaviours (without neccesarily having any good reason), and to people making negative comments over IC behaviour that they don't like even if it is good RP.

Anyways, just my two cents and I'm happy to admit I may be waaayyy off target. Interesting idea though

[ThePaganKing]

I am not against this idea; however, I think it would cause more trouble than it is worth. A lot of people would probably become very upset and that would cause more problems for the DMs, IMO.

Good idea, but implementation may cause more problems than it would be worth.

[Lothoir]

Another idea, make the notes anonymus to the player reading them, or allow a noting player to make it anonymus, but to ensure that it's not 'abused' brand their comment with their player name viewable only by DM's.

But honestly I think we're all mature enough to be able to use this in an adult manner, and those that aren't can be reprimanded in whatever fashion the DM's feel is necessary.

[Spanking Monkey]

To toss in my two cents and hope they won't be thrown back:

There is merit to both sides of this, really. The only problem I could see is all the older players in the server (not bashing on you guys, love you!) voting only on people they know/see or the newer players just feeling too out of the circle to put in a vote.

Other than that? I think the best method of this would be a page dedicated to RP comments only. Maybe, if at all possible, allow the person whom is making the comment to be anonymous so nothing has the chance of escalating? Just some ideas.

I am waiting for the server to update tomarrow so I haven't even played on this server yet but I must say I agree with Warfire on most of what he said here.

One thing I have learned is the players themselves will let you know your failings or kudos in RPing on the spot which is generally the most effective way. This goes the same for DM's who are watching; as well as players giving Kudos or criticism to a DM.

If a RP rating system is instituted on this server I can see things getting a bit biased in the end especially if it is just an opinion of some player about another player. Nope it will not work and in the end it will be as another on a previous post mentioned, an issue of personal preference and a nifty friendship, kinship club will develop from this and there will be alot of disgruntled folks out there.

I for one am an RPer to the core so i believe this will not personally have a negative effect on me, but I am one who will put forth the effort required to guide another on the journey to being a good RPer and generally have a response of appreciation; not hostility, when i do this.