Re-launch near the end of August

[Saulus]

The past few days have been quite invaluable for feedback and we will continue to fix bugs and work on a few new features. I will be leaving tomorrow for a few weeks in cottage country, during this time the server will be left up in more or less it's current state so you guys can continue to give us feedback.

Although I will be getting a much needed vacation, not all of our staff will be gone, in fact there are already many on the team hard at work on some new things you will get to see post-stress test at the end of August.

So spread the word, and get ready for Sundren!

[Kaybrie]

*Sighs deeply* And I was getting all excited over being able to start RPing and having character development in the next week... *Flops over and fumbles through games.*

[Kaybrie]

Alright, this has to be said...

Near the end of August?! Why? What's the point honestly?

Here's the scenario;

EXP works, Loot works, shops work, why can't we keep our characters?

We already went through a 'your characters will be deleted, but keep doing stuff so we can test things out' stage after the separation between Saulus and GodbeastX. Within a week we went from 30 or so players at peak times, to about 8 players, by the end of the second week I could sit on for 12 hours and the most number of players I'd see come on line would be 4, and one of those four would just be quickly checking in to see if there was anybody to talk to, and the other was a newbie randomly killing goblins for no reason, the last being a person sitting around with me OOC talking about how much it sucks that nobody else is around anymore.

It'll be the same thing here, there are people lining up at your doorstep right now itching to get back into Sundren and get some hard-core RPing done, I talk to them all the freaking time, I can't speak purely for some of these people but I get this impression from Luck, Arckeya, Satoshi, Stonethumb... The list goes on, all awesome RPers who want to come back, but wont because they feel that there is no point.

Like, we worked out a crap-ton of bugs already, so why not just let the server go live now, and continue to work out bugs while people begin to get in there new characters niche's... We don't even necessarily want DM activity, we'd be more then happy to help you out through the first month of these rough waters if we were simply allowed to keep the characters that we use in this time.

I say this, because I held on to Sundren for the longest time after it litterally died because of this same reason... Character wipe will kill your population. Veterans will all pass the buck on server testing and just find something else to do until September, and newbies will just overlook a server with no population, and those that do come along won't be in it for testing out bugs and whatnot, or at least won't stick around for any length of time due to the low server population and the fact, that they'd rather keep their characters.


So I say again, if the EXP system works, the Loot tables are functional and your spawns are all in good order, which from what I played, all seems well and good... Just reset the server now and let us test your server with characters that we can keep. That way, veterans will come, and help test undoubtedly, you'll get newbies coming in to enjoy the server, and with a higher population comes more bug reports... There haven't been any exploit reports yet from what I saw, and if the code is more or less the same then there won't be.

[Satoshi]

I second this notion, and move to strike.

[Luck.exe]

I third this notion, awaiting Satoshi's coordinates.

[cpas]

I have to agree here as well.

[undeadsteak]

Aye, i agree as well. I want to keep my chars, as otherwise, i don't feel too much of a point rping and playing, and putting effort into my char.

[Kokobunji]

Yeah I can basically say that I wont be testing a beta server for another month to have my character wiped, sorry dude but I and most others have better things to do than have repetitive char wipes. Although it is nice to play lvl 1-3 a few times on some classes it gets a little old a little too fast ^^

[Ithildin]

I'm also for this suggestion, the server is playable with maybe a few thigns to work out but nothing that would stop people from rping and such. After having just gone through that on the other server many won't be in the mood to play for another month just to have their characters wiped out and have to start all over for a third time.

[Satoshi]

"It was the last mistake Sundren would make."

[Machiavelli]

I gots to agree with this also. Perhaps there are some techie type issues that I don't comprehend, but Kasso's basic points are all too true.

[wangxiuming]

i agree as well. end of august seems...really far away

[Saulus]

Sorry folks you're just going to have to wait, there's some things that need to get done before I open the floodgates and it's very unlikely I can get them done before I leave.

That's just how it works.

If I were for example to say "Just screw it" and open it, then there is a very high chance of there needing to be a character wipe. This "stress test" was opened under the strict warning that these are "play-characters" and that nothing is going to be kept. In terms of bugs, the economy, and balance.... this is near the end of the line. After the next week or two there will be enough feedback, but namely enough time for us to finish what we set out to do, and bring the server up and running for people to play and this time keep their characters.

While I would love to make everyone happy and just give everyone what they want, you can't always do that. If people don't understand this, that's unfortunate.

[Machiavelli]

Ah well... you can't blame us players for trying eh . Guess I'll just have to make some sort of incredibly silly character to play for the next few weeks (half orc paladin/sorceror with 6 CHA anyone? )

[Kaybrie]

However much I would love to test characters and stuff, players who stuck around after Sundren died off the first time, know that I put in a large number of hours after its death to try to have fun and whatnot... It's not happening with me anymore, I'm not advocating that I am stuck in my ways and that others should be to, in fact I encourage them to go out there and test... But I'm going to do what most of us hardcore veterans are doing, I couldn't stand to RP a character for a month only to have it torn away so, I'm passing the buck.

If anyone's interested they can contact me over MSN (In my profile) for awesome games of Dawn of War anytime. =3

See yall in September.