NPC and Ethereal

[ManUtd4Ever]

There was some discussion a while back about the improper use of Ethereal by players... specifically that it was considered improper to use Ethereal and then continue to cast offensive spells.

I just encountered this with an NPC. The Mindflayer was roaming about and I encountered him a few rooms away from his own hall. Granted, I was not expecting nor looking to fight him, but it happened. He attacked me and then cast Ethereal on himself and began wailing me with spells. I do not have spellcraft so I am unable to detect the spells cast. One killed me.

I am not sure if there is anything that can be done about this... but if there were I would like to see this changed. I didn't put into the suggestion forum because I could be misinformed about the spells used, yada yada.

Cheers!

[[DM] Grinning Death]

Any offensive spells should disable the etherealness, regardless. The problem with ethereal, is when players cast it and cast defensive spells on themselves before breaking it with an attack/offensive spell.

In this case, I'd say that the first offensive spell (because I'm not sure the mindflayer has a whole lot of defensive spells) should have broken the etherealness.

[ManUtd4Ever]

In this case, I'd say that the first offensive spell (because I'm not sure the mindflayer has a whole lot of defensive spells) should have broken the etherealness.

It may have broken and I was unable to determine it based on my none existent spellcraft score. I don't know. Sounds like it's a non-issue.

Cheers

[Kaybrie]

Any offensive spells should disable the etherealness, regardless. The problem with ethereal, is when players cast it and cast defensive spells on themselves before breaking it with an attack/offensive spell.

In this case, I'd say that the first offensive spell (because I'm not sure the mindflayer has a whole lot of defensive spells) should have broken the etherealness.

Read that in Bill Cosby's voice.

Also; isn't that the purpose of ethereal jaunt? To get a chance to reset yourself and stage to attack again? I know in PnP defensively buffing yourself while ethereal has no downside, and doesn't break etherealness as invisibility should.

[Lotus]

The problem with ethereal, is when players cast it and cast defensive spells on themselves before breaking it with an attack/offensive spell.

Nope. The problems are actually (1) casters buffing and healing their party members whilst ethereal without those party members also being ethereal and (2) casters using summons and other overtly offensive spells that for whatever reason don't break etherealness.

Going ethereal and then buffing yourself is perfectly fine.

[[DM] Grinning Death]

Ah, my bad. Misread the rule!