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    I searched whole forum and wiki and did not found anything that would help me even a slightest bit. So here is my question.

    What are distances between important places? Is there some mounted/magic transport player could take/use to arrive somewhere within few hours or does it usually take a day(s) of walking?

    Thank you
    Valor
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Valor
    I searched whole forum and wiki and did not found anything that would help me even a slightest bit. So here is my question.

    What are distances between important places? Is there some mounted/magic transport player could take/use to arrive somewhere within few hours or does it usually take a day(s) of walking?

    Thank you
    Valor
    I know of one distance marking in-game, stating that between the Pioneer's Road and Sundren City is 40 or 60 kilometers (I can't remember which). This being that there is a sign there saying so. I'm not sure how that compares to other distances, but I try to use it as a rough ruler.

    Although, it does make Sundren seem a bit small.

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    • #3
      Bear in mind it can take the better part of a day (or multiple days if the weather is disagreeable - as it so often is in sundren) to travel 30 kilometers with a third (or more) of your body weight on your back plus armor over rough roads and untamed terrain and so forth and unless you do it regularly this would be a grueling experience. Sundren's decently sized for a small country actually.

      Server needs more people stopping by the second wind fire pit, taking off their boots and draining blisters nastily but necessarily in front of onlookers.

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      • #4
        A leisurely walker takes about 115-120 steps per minute and will cover a mile in approximately 17-18 minutes. A brisk pace demands 135 steps per minute, for a 15 minute mile.
        • 1 kilometer = 0.621371192 miles

        • 30 kilometers = 0.621371192 * 30 = 18.64113576 miles


        Rounded up, we'll say approximately 19 miles. Walking 19 miles at a leisurely pace: 18 minutes * 19 miles = 342 minutes total. 342 minutes / 60 = 5.7 hours.

        Walking 19 miles at a brisk pace: 15 minutes * 19 miles = 285 minutes total. 285 / 60 = 4.75 hours.


        This does not take into account of added mass (weapons, armor, ect.) which may drastically increase the time required, which Twisted-Indoctrine mentioned.

        Hope this helps!
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        • #5
          Problem is, that:

          1. We all have different kinds of training. Someone could be much more trained to whole day running. Good soldier would have close to no problem marching for 12h a day in fullplate with gear in good pace. There are people that aren't used to move more than couple of kilometres a day.

          2. Some of us can have their own means of transport, even if they are not scripted in game. Like horses, or teleports.

          3. Most of us could use other means of transport not owned by them. Taking a place among caravan for small fee is most common thing. Someone can use service of another mage to get by.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Valor View Post
            Problem is, that:

            1. We all have different kinds of training. Someone could be much more trained to whole day running. Good soldier would have close to no problem marching for 12h a day in fullplate with gear in good pace. There are people that aren't used to move more than couple of kilometres a day.

            2. Some of us can have their own means of transport, even if they are not scripted in game. Like horses, or teleports.

            3. Most of us could use other means of transport not owned by them. Taking a place among caravan for small fee is most common thing. Someone can use service of another mage to get by.
            All good points, agree with you on all of them. Consider my calculations the speed for an untrained warrior or peasant.

            Also, I'd like to throw in the point that an increased constitution score would likely modify one's physical stamina & endurance relative to this topic, shortening the times even further. (Regardless of being a trained warrior or not. Like this guy.)
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            • #7
              In looking at the map of Faerun and the area where Sundren has been placed, it looks as if the map that depicts Sundren in the Wiki is about 250 miles square, that is, 250 miles on a side, or about 402 kilometers.

              Twisted-Indoctrine seems quite correct on travel times. Early US settlers could travel about 15 miles a day with large wagon trains across the praire, and that was after days and weeks of hard travel that inures a person to the rigors of such. If we think of adventurers as extraordinary people, 30 kilometers a day for them would be well within reach.

              Then, more to your point, if you print out the map of Sundren on the Wiki, do a little work on scaling it to about 400 kilometers...Voilà! you have a map put to scale and a way to figure the distances and, more importantly, a way to RP travel times and how you might feel after such travels between points in Sundren.

              By the way...that's a very good question and one that is mostly ignored. Not saying people aren't aware of it, but with the travel that's involved in most of our RP adventures, it becomes a bit of nuisance to RP all the tiny details of a life that is bereft of all the little time saving conveniences we use so blithely today.

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              • #8
                250 SQUARE miles. THat'd be around 15 x 15 if it was square. I think it's bigger than 15 miles across, but it's not that gigantic and doesn't take a week to cross.

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                • #9
                  Actually, I've wondered about that myself and I did come up with a distance scale if you were to place the Sundren valley exactly where it is in the FR map. If you look, Sundren would only be 60 miles or so wide, making everything close knit... with space so limited, no wonder tensions between groups are high.

                  If I recall, the last time i crunched things out. Exigo trading post would only be about 12-15 miles south from Sundren city.

                  Now mind you, that's only if you take it literally. Since this also is a world unto itself, the bosses can make Sundren 1000 miles across if they want.

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                  • #10
                    Well, my mistake for the confusion. What I met was 250 miles on a side...so yes, much bigger. Thank you for the map and the scale. *smiles*

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