Drow - Alignment

[Raikon]

Hello mates,

Could you tell me please if there is any restrictions for the Drow alignment and did you accept good drow ?





P.S. For the feat Magic Attuned i didn't see the requirements. Could you tell me what i need in order to take this feat ?

[Torgar]

In order to play drow, you have to win Role player of the Month. Also, Drow are Kill on sight according to sundren laws, so weather or not you are good aligned means nothing, because everyone will try to kill you if they find out. I'm not saying this to be mean, just as a heads up. And the last guy who played a non-evil drow pretty much screwed it up for the rest of the people who would ever want to play one, so in the end, I might suggest not going with drow. But in the end, play what you'll have fun with, the haters be damned.

P.S. As for Magic Attuned, according to the wiki, there are no feat prereqs at all, but they may have added some and not updated the wiki. If there are any, it's probably ranks in spell craft that will meet them. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

[DM_Acorn]

Drow is a locked race. Need RPOTM to even be considered. Then you need a bio for DM approval.

Good aligned drow are generally frowned upon. As are good grey dwarves for that matter. You would need one hell of a bio for clearing that.

[Gamling]

Good drow are not impossible, and honestly not that rare, given there's a whole diety for good drow. But they're generally not liked due to Drizzt fans ruining it for everyone.

But neutral is pretty common for drow, and of course evil.

[Raikon]

Well, good drow for me is a bit ... strange let's say because of their history and created by Lolth. I don't know but for this means that automaticly the drow should be Evil and no other alignment.

P.S. I know that the drow is locked race, i'm asking you for your opinions if it's normal for all of you to have different drow alignment then evil. I saw few cases of good drow - even paladin and it's truly unnatural and not really logical for me.

[Doubtful]

Like pretty much any intelligent race Drow can run the range of alignments, although racially (probably based on a mixture of natural disposition and the nature of their society) they err toward Evil.

On the whole I'd say that adventures (IE: PCs) will be more likely to have a non-typical alignment than any Drow (or other intelligent monster) encountered in the wild.

This is due to the fact that adventurers are typically those who've left their homes due to fate/destiny/boredom/drama and have embarked on a life full of dangerous spelunking.

Of course, like all of the ECL races (excluding Gray Orcs) Drow are a locked race and require winning RPoTM and final DM approval to play. They're also Kill on Sight, so goodness may not matter when everyone stabs you.

[Raikon]

If they are kill on sight, they are able to attack everyone without permission ? And could you please explain me how to have this feat "Magic Attuned" ?

[Doubtful]

The 'Magic Attuned' feat is selectable as a standard feat, it is located in the 'Skills and Saves' section of feats at level up and has no prerequisites.

As for attacking everyone - So long as the standard PvP rules are observed then feel free. Please keep in mind the legitimate reason aspect - Being a Drow is legitimate reason enough for anyone to attack you, but you would need something more than 'I'm an angry Drow' to initiate an attack on them (Although fearing for your life if they're RPing that they're about to kill you is probably good enough).

[Raikon]

Ok it's clear now if i chose the drow race ... one day ...

[rustediron]

I'm an angry Drow! RAWRRRR

(But I'm also only level 1 with about 10hp and am going get absolutely friggin' ownd by everyone and their mum's pot plant)

[Raikon]

It seems you need help We need to to apply together for me

[Thief Of Navarre]

I'm an angry Drow! RAWRRRR

(But I'm also only level 1 with about 10hp and am going get absolutely friggin' ownd by everyone and their mum's pot plant)

Thats because you missed deep gnome and hit drow instead. With a deep gnome you would have rediculous saves, huge ac, a positive dex mod, spell like abilities and of course you would qualify for all DM events for the sheer fact that your a gnome!

Then again reaching level 4 would require you have near epic planning skills and absolutely tons of friends to help you out :S

[GodBeastX]

The reason good Drow are frowned upon is mainly the issue with people's visions of alignments and not the idea of a good Drow in itself.

People tend to all universally view good as being Jesus, whether lawful, neutral, chaotic or otherwise. When I read Eilistraee's lore I tend to go "Man, this would be cool to see" mostly because it's hardcore warriors that grab swords and beat the crap out of evil and what not.

In practice it tends to be this idea that "Hey, I'm good, you guys should treat me good. Drow are just misunderstood." which causes people to look at Drow and go "Oh, if they can be good, anyone can be good!" and we start getting flowery gameplay going on where everyone holds hands and frollick in the woods.

Then when someone comes along and says "I hate Drow, let's whoop some ass!" the new mass of hippies look at him like he's the badguy, even if Drow are running around killing Humans and enslaving them off camera, this guy becomes a badguy for hating something everyone generally hates.

Fact is, being good doesn't make you a nice person. Being good doesn't make you follow laws. Being good doesn't make you polite. And how easy it is to change people's mentality on a whole race just by being that one exception makes us want to push players towards RPing more of a stereotypical idea of what that race should be.

Good Drow to me are just one piece of it. Good Tieflings. Good Vampires. Evil Halflings. Lawful Elves (Especially Paladins). And other ideas are often a source of angst to me too. Humans are one of the very few races that mentally really can just be anything. And other races tend to have an ingrained mindset that few should diverge from. Even Deep gnomes should have trouble being anything but neutral.

That being said, I've seen good Drow in the history of Sundren that didn't make my stomach churn and I've seen people go all sorts of directions, like paladin Elves that didn't either, but the ones who take it to the bad place tend to far outweigh those who wield the position well so it's easier to just say "Let's not see it" than to have to reason with people over and over.

Ironically even Eilistraee Drow know they are hated. They have whole activities they're expected to do just because of this. They have, for example, a tradition where they'll approach a Human settlement unarmored and try to do good for the people there hoping nobody will kill them. Ironically though, many do die doing this.

[DM_Acorn]

Well said GBX. Thank you.