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  • #31
    I advise a different career path. Adventuring seems pretty perilous.

    In all seriousness, I've hardly seen any of the server because the enemies are so strong and my character so weak. Even at level 8 Sharahan Hills was worrysome.

    It's all good though; she has learned the hard way that she's not cut out for adventuring and persues other (increasingly ridiculous) avenues to fulfil herself and stuff her bottomless pockets.

    The only thing I'm bummed about is not being able to see certain parts of the server, as I'm sure they look amazing, given the degree of skill that goes into mapping this place.

    I'm sure one day I'll come up with some contrived reason or other for her to see these places one day, but fighting stuff won't be one of them.
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    • #32
      even being a high level divine caster is hard soloing the areas that get you exp, i often die alot in the mossdale unless I am really careful, all those things carrying dispell weapons make it a hard time to keep fighting without worrying about loosing that critical spell that keeps you alive.

      but yeah, having a melee character who hates casters makes casters hate you, and that makes for hard party groups when 1/2 of the server has some sort of casting skill

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Anrilor View Post
        even being a high level divine caster is hard soloing the areas that get you exp, i often die alot in the mossdale unless I am really careful, all those things carrying dispell weapons make it a hard time to keep fighting without worrying about loosing that critical spell that keeps you alive.

        but yeah, having a melee character who hates casters makes casters hate you, and that makes for hard party groups when 1/2 of the server has some sort of casting skill
        You die in the mossdale because you cast all your spells and try and charge through it as fast as you can...even with a sneak in your party who can kill anything in the first area in 1 round...the neat thing about short term buffs is you can cast them when you see an enemy before they see you...

        As fot Helga... she is screwed beyond a few Demonflesh Zombies without a buffer, the build does not allow for survival with the Slitherscale hexer's suicidal flamestriking, the peasents on the other side of Argyle would OWN her (ice storm and lesser Isaacs)....Root you just need to find another cleric helga can like besides Waryn you guys owned even the mouth of Orcus with Helga buffed...if Seb buffed Helga she could survive the first area of the mossdale with a few healing potions...even at lvl 20 she is going to be screwed in the mossdale unbuffed.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by JuneyGnomey View Post
          I advise a different career path. Adventuring seems pretty perilous.
          Perhaps I'll quite wilderness evil-slaying and start up a bakery!

          I mean the skillset is pretty similar and all.
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          • #35
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Root View Post
              I think a melee character who has entire IC backing to dislike almost all casters by default, may have been a bad idea.

              :P
              Maybe she can learn to trust one or two... as has been suggested. I mean, unless your a Xaayne, you're bound to learn from events of the past and develop new strategies.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Fezzik View Post
                Maybe she can learn to trust one or two... as has been suggested
                You are either a caster or are nice to people and make friends. Being a fighter and telling people to fuck off doesn't work even if it makes sense from a RP point of view. I tried that at least twice. It was a bad idea.

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                • #38
                  Or now that you're 11th level you can just take a page out of Maev's book and ... well... do we really need to say it?
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                  • #39
                    Gotta say...you don't group with at least one decent caster, you are boned hard. Ursus is well equipped and lvl 19. Still can't survive the Veritas or the Mossdale on his own. Even with a decent AC, AB, and 6 attacks per round...he just winds up dead (or totally broke from all the cure serious wounds potions). Luckily, Ursus doesn't have Helga's aversion to casters and has even managed to find a few (a small few, but a few) of them that will run with him.

                    A non-caster that avoids casters is just plain boned on the server. She can alwasy look up Alexandros the 1/2 orc Red Blade :P
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                    • #40
                      And if you're thinking fighter/caster hybrid, don't go paladin. We're boned in the Veritas and Mossdale, too.

                      The fighter has to, has to make caster friends, else it'll be doing nothing after level 15. The fighter that makes it to the high levels, though, is a huge asset in a fight, properly buffed. Knockdown and disarm on toughies is huge, and there's nothing quite like a properly jacked Weapon Master or Frenzied Berserker to tear through bad guys. You'll never-ever-ever win a 1vX CvC against any full caster or anything with HiPS, but you'll be super sweet with your super friends.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by roguethree View Post
                        And if you're thinking fighter/caster hybrid, don't go paladin. We're boned in the Veritas and Mossdale, too.

                        The fighter has to, has to make caster friends, else it'll be doing nothing after level 15. The fighter that makes it to the high levels, though, is a huge asset in a fight, properly buffed. Knockdown and disarm on toughies is huge, and there's nothing quite like a properly jacked Weapon Master or Frenzied Berserker to tear through bad guys. You'll never-ever-ever win a 1vX CvC against any full caster or anything with HiPS, but you'll be super sweet with your super friends.

                        You'd be suprised what a meleer can do with Grapple against those kinds here. :3
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                        • #42
                          It may surprise you Root but a straight Wizard or Druid or Wizard/Druid Mystic Thurge at the same level as Helga will have zero luck soloing...at lvl 12 Seb had a 50/50 shot of defeating the bandit ambush above aquor at lvl 14 he died trying to solo the demonflesh zombies at 13 he stepped on a trap in the mossdale and died...if it wasnt for false life an archer in the mossdale shooting at him while Thomp is busy killing a different one could kill him if it got one crit off...Helga can kill him using grapple...or if he is unbuffed by hitting him a few times he only has 120HP at lvl 18....you cannot go much past the Ogre's without partying up...and most armored caster builds at low lvl would die trying to solo the light stuff several times...the "dungeons" are designed for a damager and/or tank and a buffer working in tandem a properly prepaired party of six lvl 12's could take the mossdale border and forest area and the forge if they managed to draw one enemy at a time gaining ginormous xp but there isnt a player on here that can solo every single area without dying at some point
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by dragor View Post
                            most armored caster builds at low lvl would die trying to solo the light stuff several times...the "dungeons" are designed for a damager and/or tank and a buffer working in tandem a properly prepaired party of six lvl 12's could take the mossdale border and forest area and the forge if they managed to draw one enemy at a time gaining ginormous xp but there isnt a player on here that can solo every single area without dying at some point
                            qft

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                            • #44
                              While casters do have it easier, I also have to agree that they can't all solo all areas. At level 8, with decent gear, my 1/2 orc cleric can't survive past the orcs in the Virindale (and he is hard pressed to stay alive there...but he's a Red Knight follower...so tactics is his thing ). I have seen some pretty uber casters fall to the orcs in the Mossdale (and, subsequently, the rest of the party) due to spamming dispells and massive crit damages.

                              I try and go nowhere alone with any of my toons after about level 8. Earlier for some of the weaker builds (my Shadowbane Stalker won't even leave town alone at level 8...cuz he's a wimp :P ). And all mine except Ursus and my Invisible Blade-to-be are casters of some fashion. Ursus, with no casting ability at all, is my highest level toon. The ONLY reason for this is that he hooked up with a couple casters early on and he only goes out with their support. There is a reason he is always just standing at the stairs in Aquor lookin all ominous instead of being out racking up the xp and gold from the Mossdale. One on one...he's pretty good (Tigen and Dain can attest to that). Against a small group...not so much. Need a buffer to survive anywhere.
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                              • #45
                                i have a fighter type character who is lvl 16. i found out the best way to survive is boost your ac as high as possible. use bark skin potions, expertise feats, heavy armor, and shields. you will miss more often, but you will eventually get the job done. it'll just take a bit longer and a lot less risky. also try to fight as little as possible at one time, give yourself some time to recover after each fight. do not hesitate to run if things don't go your way. oh and avoid caster types such as ogre mages, having high ac there won't help much. very basic stuff, but it works.
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