Truesilver Armour

[gcjohnson]

Just a quick question about the Triumvirate Truesilver Armour. It has damage reduction of 1/Lawful / Good, so does that equate to DR1 vs. all damage types except damage inflicted by Lawful Good opponents of DR 1 vs. all except Lawful or Good opponents (i.e. could a Lawful Evil opponent bypass the DR?)
Just thought id ask?
Thanks

[Urithrand]

Lawful evil could bypass this DR I believe. They are two seperate exceptions to the DR. Perhaps this wasn't intentional.

[DM_Equinox]

Why does armor for a "goodly" faction have DR/Good? Wouldn't it make more sense for that to be evil?

Other than that I've found that the "only wearable by" always means either one OR the other.... so it stands to reason it's the same for DR - any lawful or any good would apply...

[Cornuto]

Heh.

DR 5/cold iron means you have 5 damage resistance but it is penetrated by cold iron.
DR 5/Evil would mean that evil weapons can bypass your damage resistance -- which wouldn't make much sense for armor meant to be used in the fight against evil.

As for the OP, it can be either an AND or an OR condition. Uou can set it to either in the toolset's Damage Reduction property. We'd need to pull it open in the toolset and look at it.

So its either ...

DR 1 against anything but either lawful or good
or
DR 1 but against anything but lawful good

I'm not sure what that means though... if the person attacking you is lawful, does that count, or does their weapon have to be lawful? I'm inclined to believe the former, but then the Monk's Ki strike ability wouldn't make much sense.

Ki Strike

At 4th level, a monk's unarmed attacks are empowered with ki. Her unarmed attacks are treated as magic weapons for the purpose of dealing damage to creatures with damage reduction. Ki strike improves with the character's monk level, becoming lawful for purposes of damage reduction at level 10 and adamantine for purposes of damage reduction at level 16.

Monks are already lawful. Why would it be of any benefit for them to get this ability at level 10, if the haracter's alignment being lawful was enough to bypass DR/Lawful already.

[DM_Equinox]

Oh... yeah. I remember now *feels dumb and hides*

[Urithrand]

If the DR is penetrated by only lawful Good then it's written as a single line - ala "DR 5/ lawful good" as opposed to two seperate lines stating lawful and good as two seperate entities. To my knowledge, it relates to the creature wielding the weapon.

[Cornuto]

Checked the toolset.

Its got "use OR logic" set to true, so its Lawful OR Good that pierces it.

[Phantom Lamb]

There is OR logic. It is penetrated by either Lawful or Good. Lawful evil would penetrate. So would chaotic good.

[GodBeastX]

Good against those C/E types

[Tome]

Okay, I gotta ask.

Does adamantine automatically cut through ANY DR then that is not listed as x/- ?

The barbarian, dwarven defender, special dwarf-only feats, adamantine armor, and bard's Ironskin Chant are the only sources for this kind of DR I believe.

[Cornuto]

I don't think so. I just think all DR granted by spells is DR/adamantium so its useful in cutting through buffs like butter.

[GodBeastX]

Adamantine has a tendency to cut though stoney materials and minerals. Premonition and such isn't actually meant to be the way it's implemented in NWN. http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/foresight.htm.

#/- <-- nothing can penetrate

[gbbishop]

there was a feat, might have been epic but it was called penetrate dr....

lemme look it up.

Yeah that wont help sundren... it was just for the magical bonus you needed. adds a virtual +2 for over coming say DR/magic+5 (you would only need a +3 sword in this case) i believe it was changed you could take it to bypass one type of dr... or perhaps it just shaved off some of the target creature's DR... i cant remember.

DR is borked to start with though imho.

I had a player buy weapons in all the metals just so he would never loose damage to DR. *sigh*

There were some sweet spells that added a metallic quality to you weapon. Had sentinel (NG paladin variant that protects the prime from outsiders) that was also a druid.. he was able to change the metallic property to fit the sit (demon or devil).

oh and you could apply an oil to silver your sword.

stuff like this would be an awesome addition.

and as far as alignment based DR I am pretty sure that it works like this a demon has DR 15 coldiron AND good. Thus you need a coldiron blade with good alignment (bless weapon works for this)

This begs up the question, in sundren, what do you need to add to a coldiron weapon to get the "good" property? A damage bonus vs evil seems most likely as that is the adjustment that bless weapon gives but in PNP is was the holy property that did this. Is there a holy enchant? and does that bypass DR good?

[Thief Of Navarre]

Okay, I gotta ask.

Does adamantine automatically cut through ANY DR then that is not listed as x/- ?

The barbarian, dwarven defender, special dwarf-only feats, adamantine armor, and bard's Ironskin Chant are the only sources for this kind of DR I believe.

Regenerative coccoon (Druid 4 or 5?) as well I believe.

As for monks I think that might make a monk's weapons count as natural attacks for the purpose of overcoming DR, not sure though!

i.e. Avalon the silver dragon is lawfull good so her natural attacks would count as lawfull or equal to her damage reduction which is 30/+4 for the sake of argument; this would give her either +4 claws/bite or lawful natural attacks.