RP exp after multiclassing

[Elusa]

After multiclassing to a non-favored class, I now receive 23 RP exp per tick instead of 30. This upsets me because 1) It's my only form of leveling and 2) I multiclassed purely for RP reasons. I'm wondering if this is on purpose, and if it is not, if it can be fixed through scripting. I've never understood the reasoning behind multiclass exp penalties, and they make even less sense when applied to RP exp.

If it was indeed designed on purpose or can't be fixed, and I'd like to be de-leveled 1 level, because it already takes me 30+ hours to level up. I can't afford a 25% decrease in leveling speed.

[Urithrand]

EXP penalties are mentioned on every race of the character creation screen. They have a purpose and a perfectly good explanation. Your character's exp reflects how much they are learning about the specific areas entwined in their character classes. The non-favoured classes are the ones your race are not inherently good at and as such they learn more slowly. They experience a decrease in all exp, why did you think RP exp would be different?

Demanding a relevel is not the best way to go about it either, we've refused to do so for much bigger problems than an unexpected blip in your exp tick. If you see me IG then give my a poke and we can talk about it.

[Kaeldorn]

As Uri said, this is not something that'll change. Although I did think that according to official rules it'd be 10% per level difference over 1, and not just a flat 25%. The system makes it possible to eventually close the gap and proceed as normal...

[EndsBeginning]

The game allows for multiclassing without XP penalty. All of your non favored class levels have to be within 1 level of each other (like a 3 ranger/2 wizard is ok, but not a 4 swashbuckler/2 favored soul, or 4 fighter/3 sorcerer/2 monk). The point being to reduce people taking 1 level of fighter for the feat, 1 level of monk for flurry etc.

[Thief Of Navarre]

Unless its your favoured class, then feel free to dabble a bit!

Malik was originally going to be a Maztican human, I much prefer him as a halfling now though

[Product of Void]

Ashinet has been that way for about six levels or so. Its only seven xp your missing.

If i want xp I find folks and hunt, its faster, safer, and you get alot more.

[Elusa]

Why should RP exp be any different? Because it's 30 exp per 10 minutes. That's 180 points an hour. If it takes me 7000 exp to level, that's 38 hours and 53 minutes to level. 23 exp per tick knocks it up to over 50 hours. And since you don't get any ticks unless there's some kind of actual conversation, that's 50 hours of pure roleplaying. 7 exp makes a big difference in the long run. In comparison, I could probably level up in 3-4 hours of grinding with a group.

Now, the reason it doesn't make sense to me is that I could simply switch to human or half-elf, and suddenly any strange combination of classes I decide to choose suddenly has no penalty. Bard/Barbarian? It's fine! As long as you're a human. And then more reasonable multiclassing, like Ranger/Druid, incurs a penalty for elves, who are considered more in tune with nature than humans. I'm not arguing for removal of the multiclassing penalties, since those are in the SRD. But lowering exp rewards for roleplaying as a multiclass character is punishing anyone who chooses to deviate from the archetypes handed down by the SRD.

Also, there's a difference between asking and demanding for a delevel. That's deleveling. I'm asking for a DM to knock me down a level if this is how it's going to be. Otherwise I'm restarting my character at level 3; it doesn't really matter to me either way. I'm suffering enough from choosing to roleplay a character who doesn't have a drive to go searching for monsters to fight. I don't need further punishment for my roleplaying decisions.

Also, according to the NWN2 wiki, the penalty should be 20% instead of 25%, making it 24 exp rather than 23.

And I'm guessing this suggestion is going to get denied and thread locked. But I thought it worth bringing up.

[Phantom Lamb]

Elusa, you're going about this the wrong way. Relevels OR delevels are not automatic. A DM could help you out, but it's not a given. And you're not helping your case right now by being so "energetic" in this response.

I don't think this is going to be a suggestion that will change. Multiclassing is a part of DnD and we're not likely to alter it on Sundren.

If you believe the % is off, then this should be raised as a bug report.

Elsewise, please seek a DM in-game. I cannot promise you a relevel or a delevel, but they can address your issue there, rather than here publicly.

[Saulus]

And I'm guessing this suggestion is going to get denied and thread locked. But I thought it worth bringing up.

Bingo.

#1) Demanding
#2) Unreasonable request that is covered in the rules... why? Because we defined them, this includes whatever you perceive to be an error, no relevels. It's not bugging your character.
#3) The RP XP is a privilege, not a certified handout that is strictly defined and moderated... be thankful you get any XP from it at all
#4) Update the wiki or direct it to someone that has taken up the torch to improve it, mistakes get made. Just because it says it in the wiki does not mean it's accurate to the decimal... if you have issues with how the NWN2 game mechanics work, take it up with Obsidian, the RP XP is not going to be modified to bypass multiclassing penalties.

Also Sundren was not designed for soley roleplaying without ever going out to take quests or go hunting. If you decide to purely roleplay, that's entirely your choice, but whether that affects your rate of levelling or not is not our problem. That's your decision.