Sundren GUI Thoughts/Ideas

[sharringtonm]

How exactly are you going to get someone to do what you want with diplomacy, intimidiation, or bluff when your wildshaped as a bear?
Remember intimidation is not making people run in fear, its convincing them its in their best interest to cooperate or at least not get in your way.


Please elaborate. (Unless your a MOMF, and I could see that.)

[Llew Hy]

Well, lets say for instance player A is a druid and player B is an incredibly annoying thief that everyone despises. Player A tells Player B it would be in his best interest to leave and player B refuses so Player A shifts into a Dire Bear, roars at Player B and rolls an intimidate to convince him that it really is in his best interest to leave.

Its not that important though, I was just spouting off an idea so I could look cool like lollercide :P. (Though, his ideas are good, mine are typically nonsensical.)

[sharringtonm]

Heh, if someone did that to me? I'd see the wildshape as a invitation to CvC. Just like if a mage cast GMW on themselves, or a cleric cast Divine Power, or a fighter quaffed a potion of bulls strength.

But regardless, that would be an exception, not the norm. What if the other person was also a Dire Bear? Or was a Mind Flayer, etc etc. Currently Intimidate only rolls with the mechanicly detectable modifiers (race, size, immunities, etc) or at least it did when I made it, how ever many weeks ago that was.

[Jai_V]

Thanks Loll. I don't know how I missed that.

Regarding the hypothetical polymorphed/wild-shaped situation, I agree that it would probably invoke a hostile response. Otherwise, I think common sense RP would solve that situation, but if you or the other player involved really wanted to go to the die, the universal +2/+4 or -4/-2 d20 "situational modifier fix-all" could be used. Sure, it's not added into the roll for you conveniently by the DMFI, but I'm sure everyone here knows how to do the simple math.

Just more spare change, because my two cents turned out to be wooden pennies.