Alignment Shifts 2

[Kaldaris]

Suggestion:
More alignment shifts during events or when a DM is watching RP?


That is all.

[Dark presence]

I'd rather see alignment obliterated altogether in all honesty, since it all too often makes people play alignments and not characters. I'm sure I'm guilty of that too, sometimes. I despise the paladin class for the fact its one alignment (even more so in Forgotten Realms, being a deity driven world, not alignment driven).

But overall, frequent alignment shifts require omnipresent DMs, so they see when you are trying to balance your actions, to make up for mistakes the character made. It also requires a greater understanding of the muddled world that is alignments, by both DMs and players. Some things are pretty obvious and deserving of shifts, but a lot is just a judgment call. In the end I don't think more frequent alignment shifts are a good idea (not that my characters have ever seen a shift).

[Scavar]

Actually trying to keep up with alignment I think would be impossible....


Too much stuff can happen to someone in a very short period of time, times when DMs just won't be around. And during the "events" DMs have a lot of stuff to be keeping track off. I don't think it's worth it unless it's something serious, like a NG person suddenly going off and killing a village of good folks.

[Xanderleo]

*turns the aligment clicker to Chaotic Evil* *eats Nyx*

[CharacterInWhite]

The last time short term alignment shifts were kept track of I got absolutely slammed for killing a Dryad while Lawful Neutral. Thing is, the dryad attacked me first and I acted out of self defense in the most effective way possible - fire. Suddenly, everybody starts screaming EVIL EVIL EVIL and if I tried to defend myself, I wasn't obeying the "law" and would get slammed more.

Yeah, I left that server.

[wangxiuming]

I've pretty much ignored my character's alignment since starting on Sundren. When I created Alyrian, he was chaotic neutral - but as I played him, I discovered he was more neutral good than anything. As he began to shift towards the darker side of warlockism, his chaotic neutral alignment finally started to make a little more sense - it was helped along by a failed attempt at getting the Shady Dealer to bargain with him and his only DM alignment change - towards evil.

That said, although I've always thought of Alyrian as somewhat power-hungry and certainly self-absorbed and arrogant (at least, during his dark side times anyway) - I don't think he's ever done anything that evil. Basically he was just really mean. He tried to kill Tamara, but failed - not because Tamara could kick his ass, although that's true also, but because in the end he just didn't have it in him. I'm pretty sure he's never killed anyone either (besides you know. hostileys.). And all that resulted from his quest for power? Saulus gave him a "Perfected Alchemist's Fire." Power my buttocks!

After my break from nwn2, he came back a bit reformed, desperate to try to prove himself, redeem himself. When his mother was encouraging certain other players to bargain with devils, he was persuading them against it. Wholeheartedly. He's spoken out for drow, for duergar, for the Veritas - not because he's some pro-tolerance hippy, but because he needs to believe in the power of redemption for all beings. He wants to believe in the good of all people.

And yet his alignment is still Chaotic Neutral (14/35).

So basically what I'm saying is this: That alignment counter in your character sheet? It's pretty much cosmetic. It'd be nice if it matched, and no doubt sometimes it will - but realistically, I can see how it'd be a big pain for the DMs to track every alignment change a character makes.

Uhh ... am I going to get banned for not playing my character's alignment?

[Kaldaris]

All I've suggested is that DM's shift alignments more. That's all.

I for one believe the alignment to be an accumulation of your actions, not the ruleset by which your actions must go by.

I am intending this suggestion to be for obvious actions, like an axe murderer threatening a little girl with a puppy.

[Rhifox]

I personally love seeing alignment changes during DM events, and actually find it more interesting than gaining exp. I like to see how my actions result in alignment shifts. I personally don't play my character based on their alignment, I prefer to have a moldable alignment that meets the character's actions. Alignment changes are what helps that. I play my character as she would realistically be acting, whether or not it matches the alignment perfectly. I just prefer to have the alignment match the character (rather than vice versa).

Usually if I see a situation that's pretty clear cut for alignment, I will remind the DMs and say 'this looks like a cause for an alignment change'. For instance, when my character stood by and watched as someone else did something extremely hazardous to their personal health, instead of warning them, since letting them do it was for her benefit. I asked the DMs to give me evil points for it, because it was clearly an evil action.

[Dune]

If we did start changing alignments for the quests we do, wether bad or good I bet alot of people will start complaining that we are messing with thier character - and yes there probably are people that would.
Of course there is a possibilty that you go slightly OTT and start killing more things then usual that doesn't fit with your alignment - that will probably result in an alignment change of some kind, but it isn't often we do change alignments, or I don't anyway.

[GodBeastX]

I shift alignments. Sometimes I forget, but people know I do. I honestly don't care if people complain. I think people who can't handle alignment shifts aren't RP'ers. Alignment is a reflection of your character not a guideline. This isn't another "Why I hate paladins because I can't stick to one alignment" thread. I'd say at least 60% of the people on the server right now need a shift. I tend to leave a threshhold of doubt where "I could just be seeing things wrong" but if I see things continuously, I start shifting.

Dms are encouraged by me to shift alignments, and if players don't like it... don't play a game with alignments.

[Aux]

Uhh ... am I going to get banned for not playing my character's alignment?

No, but you may get banned for repeatedly solo farming Veritas Hold