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    It seems a little off as is. Summon Creature 4 gives a beefy dire boar, summon 5 gives a weak shadow mastif, so it seems the scales a bit off. Maybe edit whats summoned based on alingment like it is in the Players Hand Book or close to? Good alinged gets a good type, evil gets evil, and neutral gets neutral.
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    So come then, you heroes! Come in all your power and glory! For in the final hour, all must serve the one... true... king.

  • #2
    Based on alignment is for Planar Binding . And those are so messed up for neutral players.. Summons are just screwed up in NwN2, the shadow mastiff sucks big time, your dire wolf could pretty much kill it..

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    • #3
      Great. Thanks for telling me, Undead! Jaus is going to planar bind crap now! Jeeze! *stomps off while mumbling to himself*
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      • #4
        Greater Planar Binding isn't bad. Erinyes are pretty darned good.

        ...It's just that by the time you get it, an Erinyes is a road bump.

        Horned Devil or Baalor on the other hand...
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        • #5
          Greater Planar binding is fine for evil and good, but neutral? Meh, whee, i have a big rock. Awesome. -.-

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          • #6
            Greater Planar binding is fine for evil and good, but neutral? Meh, whee, i have a big rock. Awesome. -.-
            Don't dis the earth elementals! Elementals = Pwnage and rockage!

            I think undead need far more tweaking then summons... Go into the game, hack yourself up a wizard on single player, and examine the different undead creatures you get through tiers for Create undead and Create greater undead, you'll find they almost seem to get comparatively weaker as you advance.
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            • #7
              As undead summons stand, blackguard has the best. Not sure as to why, youd think clerics/wizard undead summons would be better but.

              Yea...summoned need fixed
              Sacrifice everything as the final darkness falls... in the end, all that awaits you is death. Only then will you understand - you've been following in my footsteps all along.
              So come then, you heroes! Come in all your power and glory! For in the final hour, all must serve the one... true... king.

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              • #8
                I just find it amusing how you summon a lvl creature and by the time you throw the last buff on it and you, it disappears :-) i've given up on it as a spell myself.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scourn
                  It seems a little off as is. Summon Creature 4 gives a beefy dire boar, summon 5 gives a weak shadow mastif, so it seems the scales a bit off. Maybe edit whats summoned based on alingment like it is in the Players Hand Book or close to? Good alinged gets a good type, evil gets evil, and neutral gets neutral.
                  if you want to go as far as that, you'd want to beef out the druid summons since they actually are supposed to be summon nature's ally. Give them all animals and elementals, give the clerics/mages the summon monsters.

                  ...but I totally agree.

                  The one that boggles the mind is we get all the animal summons and elemental ones...fine, but in between there just under the Dire Bear we get a Shadow Mastiff? I know it has some special abilities but, I didn't find it very amusing when it cast fear and I ran the other way.

                  They seriously need to change that, I'll take a random elemental (large) thank you or even a Nixie. I know they have the mobs, i've seen it in the glade...even for RP purposes.

                  as for a buff...I wish vine mine was something more like an infested terran cast on a summons.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scourn View Post
                    As undead summons stand, blackguard has the best. Not sure as to why, youd think clerics/wizard undead summons would be better but.

                    Yea...summoned need fixed
                    Yeah, I mean pale master gets you summon undead... but I got a zombie with attack bonus N/A. WTF!?
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