Level Cap and Permadeath

[Lotus]

Choose the option that makes you feel good inside.

[Doubtful]

There's no 'Increased risk of perma/meaningful death for everyone' option.

I'd like to speak to a manager about this.

[Atmosphere]

Choose the option that makes you feel good inside.

Can somebody link me to the thread of the 'new' death system? Yeah, I guess I've been gone that long.

[Doubtful]

It's nearly two years old, so not that new! But.. yeah.

http://www.sundren.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17543

There have been tweaks and changes since but that thread should give you a good overview.

[Lotus]

I'd like to speak to a manager about this.

Complaint: resolved.

[Doubtful]

I was thinking more Level cap remains as is, permadeath for everyone.

[Lotus]

Vicious, and added.

[Doubtful]

Not vicious. I just want death to mean something.

Seeing the same heroes and villains doing the same battle over the same thing week after week after week after... you get the point. Never dying, never winning, never developing.

No more casual 'I died but got better' agonizing tossery. Firm guidlines covering the nature of 'death' in various settings - what constitutes permadeath and what is fine to respawn from, what happens when permadeath happens (XP rewards for new characters, items, etc). Let's have drama, plots, risk and danger! Not this numbing rolling endlessness of respawning and bouncing back as perky as ever no matter what!

Without winners or losers there is only average numbing tedium.

[Snowmane]

I voted lower level cap, but if I could frankenstein those options together:

Lower level cap (level cap 15, epic by DM XP, pseudo-permadeath for non-epic, permadeath for epic PCs)

[Lugwy]

Either fine as is, or a lower level cap. Maybe not even up to 15 - 10-12?

[Snowmane]

Not vicious. I just want death to mean something.

Seeing the same heroes and villains doing the same battle over the same thing week after week after week after... you get the point. Never dying, never winning, never developing.

No more casual 'I died but got better' agonizing tossery. Firm guidlines covering the nature of 'death' in various settings - what constitutes permadeath and what is fine to respawn from, what happens when permadeath happens (XP rewards for new characters, items, etc). Let's have drama, plots, risk and danger! Not this numbing rolling endlessness of respawning and bouncing back as perky as ever no matter what!

Without winners or losers there is only average numbing tedium.

All I can say is, YES.

[Cornuto]

Lower level caps, permadeath for all.

[Atmosphere]

Concern: How much development time would it take to readjust the world to be friendly to capped at 15? Seems a few of the epic dungeons would have to be adjusted. And developer time is always precious. Would the other suggestions not be more practical from a development stance?

[Lotus]

The content we have now could support PCs up to ~level 25, from an XP delivery standpoint.

[bipolar bear]

know there has been a discussion of many points of view, how about epic level with X level of rep? it might make the best of both worlds.

1 it gives the possibility of a PC to make a limited epic level.

2 I puts the emphisis on the faction system. IE miros (pardon the spelling) Blackwell, being as high as she is with the legion would be epic?/ that scary cleric of bane Korvos ( again not sure of the spelling) would also be epic and her counterpart.

this might bring the best of all worlds. lord knows running flags every hour just to make 5000 rep is a long long time.