Torch as a Weapon

[thaelis]

Tiny weapon (good for using in off-hand regardless your size)

1d3 bludgeoning + 1d2 fire damage?

Would be awesome.

[Farmboy2003]

1d3+1d2 fire damage?! Hell, I'd roll up a ranger and dual wield torches!

[thaelis]

LOL. Now that would be hilarious, especially if you got to 20th level and were still using them ><

But, considering the +1d2 damage wouldn't stack with Flaming enchantment or spells, it would be a pretty lame weapon except at really low levels...

[Thief Of Navarre]

1D3+1D2 means its already better than a dagger, kukri or shortsword. An invisible blade would leave the battlefeild a fiery, bloody mess.

[Gamling]

I'd recommend it adding a point or two of fire damage to your current weapon to deal with trolls and the like.

[thaelis]

1D3+1D2 means its already better than a dagger, kukri or shortsword. An invisible blade would leave the battlefeild a fiery, bloody mess.

Not really...as the kukri, and shortsword both have increased threat range, elemental damage doesn't multiply on a critical, and is much easier to block with spells or items (resistance 5 is plenty enough)

Like Gamling said, it would mainly be useful against Trolls/Unread/Frost creatures. Maybe 1 point of fire damage would be more appropriate though, as per the Pathfinder rules.

EDIT: What do u mean add to current weapon? Like, rub some oil on your sword kinda thing? Isn't that what alchemist fire does already :P

[roguethree]

Torches do 3d20 or something. The Harbinger of Wrath used one to beat a vampire to death, so they have to be more effective than they appear.

[Snowmane]

Torches do 3d20 or something. The Harbinger of Wrath used one to beat a vampire to death, so they have to be more effective than they appear.

Maybe he is secretly a Weapon Master with Torch as his weapon of choice, and the increased multiplier and threat range!

[The Butcher]

I am ok with this just so long as a monk can use flurry with the torches.

[Doubtful]

You'd have to have two versions of the torch. A weaponized version to be wielded as a weapon, do tiny amounts of damage and ruin most peoples AB (assuming it's held off-hand). Then you'd need a second version that would function (or not function, bloody torches) as a normal torch.

Improvised weapon, small, 1d3 dam +1 fire, -4 AB plus any relevant dual wielding penalties.

[Thief Of Navarre]

^ That!

[thaelis]

You'd have to have two versions of the torch. A weaponized version to be wielded as a weapon, do tiny amounts of damage and ruin most peoples AB (assuming it's held off-hand). Then you'd need a second version that would function (or not function, bloody torches) as a normal torch.

Improvised weapon, small, 1d3 dam +1 fire, -4 AB plus any relevant dual wielding penalties.

DM's = spoilers of fun No +5 Undead bane holy torches? (maybe that's the kind R3 used?)

Anyway, would you really have to make two versions? Wouldn't the weaponised version also glow, if it had the Flaming property? Like Burning sword does.

You wouldn't have to worry about it affecting people who are just using it in their offhand for light, as no one does. Who's gonna take a -2 AC in exchange for some light, they'd just buy a ring of Cyan I reckon.

[Doubtful]

A torch would probably need a break/fail percentage chance as well. It's a bunch of oil soaked rags wrapped around a stick. When you start wailing on things with it there's going to be a chance that you'll extinguish the light or knock the rags off. Then you'll be stood in the dark unable to see with an angry monster.

[thaelis]

A torch would probably need a break/fail percentage chance as well. It's a bunch of oil soaked rags wrapped around a stick. When you start wailing on things with it there's going to be a chance that you'll extinguish the light or knock the rags off. Then you'll be stood in the dark unable to see with an angry monster.

How dare you bring logic and rational thought into the discussion!

Ok, so maybe it was a silly idea. How about slingshots that fire satchel charges? Cannons that fire Gnomes? No? *sigh*

[Doubtful]

An on use ability that does one or two points of fire damage might be good, simulate the ability to set fire to things. But a torch really isn't a good choice for a weapon.

Perhaps if you gather a bunch of them together and add some pitchforks you could get a fear effect against flesh constructs, vampires and gnomes.