unarmed strike + two weapon fighting

[bipolar bear]

not sure if this is a bug, or if this is something that could be implemented.

i think that any char that has the skill to use 2 weapons at once should be able to use both his fist in the same manner. unlike the monk this could alow a pc to be a "brawler" so to speak.
right now i believe that if you revert to unarmed combat the said pc only gets his normal base attacks.
i believe that if he has two weapon figting he should have 1 attack with his off hand. if he has improved two weapon he should have the extra attack with his off hand and so forth.


is this possible?

i have a char that has bras knuckles and they are warn like gloves. perhaps if said weapons were actualy armed like weapons they might make a hugh difference with how this works.


anyhow, just a thought.

[Doubtful]

Rulewise two weapon fist fights are legit - You can also TWF with a sword and a fist for example (Not sure about the TWF rules for punching your opponent in the face with your shield as a weapon though).

Sadly, rules and game mechanics can and are very different. It's my understanding that the combat system is hardcoded and as a result not changeable.

You'll just be stuck with jabs. No hooks for you.

[bipolar bear]

Would arming gloves like weapons work around this? I am sure it would mean having then skinned or perhaps invisable, but it would be like having to very small knives.

[Doubtful]

It wouldn't be unarmed combat then so none of the monkish/other unarmed feats would apply.

[Maevan2]

Maybe it could be done to a certain degree. I once wrote a script that added additional attacks if you had the rapid reload feat and used a small crossbow so that you were not limited to the 2 attacks. I think it had some flaws like adding attacks with the full AB etc.

But in the end it would be waste of time for the 1 or 2 chars that want to play a brawler and that would give up that concept because they couldn't kill anything very, very soon.

[Kitsunestume]

Rulewise two weapon fist fights are legit - You can also TWF with a sword and a fist for example (Not sure about the TWF rules for punching your opponent in the face with your shield as a weapon though).

According to PHB, sheildbash is treated as an offhand martial bludgioning weapon. I think TWF would apply for the round you make the bash, since your sheild also gives you no AC bonus.
It would be cool in practice, but I'm not sure who would trade a half-decent AC bonus and attack bonus for an extra 1d4 damage, unless they were a TWF shield-bash-weaponmaster. . . and thats just a bit odd, even for me.