Dimension Door range

[thaelis]

Is it possible to increase the range or is it a limit of the game engine? Its pretty laughable with its current range, which seems like approx. 30-40m.

In PnP it has a range of 680-1200 feet depending on your level (207-366m).

Thanks for reading!

EDIT: Also, in Pnp, and also in-game spell description it says Verbal only, but actually casting in-game results in spell failure when wearing armor (i should probably post this in bugs, but thought surely someone must have noticed this in the past, so i guess its intentional?)

[roguethree]

I think I've seen D-Door cover the whole screen. Maybe I'm misremembering.

[Saulus]

It's basically limited to your perception range. Now we could implement something that would allow you to teleport anywhere in the valley with it, but there are a few problems... one of which is allowing it to work (via dialog or somesuch) while in combat.

Other thing is too it will open up too many things we will have to account for to make sure it's not easily exploitable in some way, so it's unlikely we will change the current implementation.

[Thief Of Navarre]

Yeah would probably be too easily exploitable as saulus said. Its effectively a get out of jail free card if you can teleport out of a melee with it!

[DM_Acorn]

What if it allowed you to port to any location on the current map.

Just like a DM can zip about using the map interface.

I see it like this:

Cast spell - DD or Leaps and Bounds or what ever.

Spell/ability can be interrupted in all the usual manners.
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If spell goes off, then the following:

1. Animation ensues

2. Character is made invulnerable for 6-12 seconds.

3. Map Window pops up with a little dialog - "Select your target destination within 6-12(as per above) seconds."
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If no selection is made a random location on the map is chosen for them.

Or the spell redeposits them in "nearly" the same space. This second being far easier to code I should think.

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This way the spell would keep to the letter of the law while giving far greater utility to what should be a very important spell in many a spellslingers repertoire. It would also be nearly impossible to exploit.

(I say nearly only because I cannot come up with a way to use it for exploit. Porting you in/out of combat is EXACTLY what the spell is designed for so that cannot be an exploit)

[DM_Acorn]

Yeah would probably be too easily exploitable as saulus said. Its effectively a get out of jail free card if you can teleport out of a melee with it!

Any jail worth the tin they used on the bars will have a dimensional lock. DD is dimensional travel and thus would get you nowhere.

[[DM] Grinning Death]

He was referring to a melee situation by using a clever Monopoly (tm) analogy.

[Saulus]

What if it allowed you to port to any location on the current map.

Just like a DM can zip about using the map interface.

Sorry to cut you short Acorn but RIGHT there is the problem -- not possible. It's hardcoded.

Also there are many, many ways to exploit this... I could give you examples but... if you can't think of any that's a good thing

[Thief Of Navarre]

Thank you grinning. At least one person thought my monopoly analogy was 'clever'

[Seheren]

It is already on the max spell range I take it? I don't think anything about the spell should change except that it doesn't allow you to port as far as you can see. I think changing areas and such sounds like a headache. If it's not doable, well its NWN2 we get used to things it can't do, right?

[thaelis]

I think I've seen D-Door cover the whole screen. Maybe I'm misremembering.

Yeah, actually its rather unpredictable..sometimes it seems to go quite far, other times theres a small bump in the road and it can't seem to "see" past it. But if its hardcoded its hardcoded, I guess I can hold back my tears.

Just a shame as that spell is incredibly fun, and i'd love to see it useable in a tactical way. Right now its only good for running away. (Which I agree is very useful and has saved my life several times)

Anyway, the spell i still would most love to see some day is Lutzaen's frequent jaunt! (5th level, Dimension door 1/round) as you would be able to use it tactically even if it did have the current short range.

[Thief Of Navarre]

Yeah, actually its rather unpredictable..sometimes it seems to go quite far, other times theres a small bump in the road and it can't seem to "see" past it. But if its hardcoded its hardcoded, I guess I can hold back my tears.

Just a shame as that spell is incredibly fun, and i'd love to see it useable in a tactical way. Right now its only good for running away. (Which I agree is very useful and has saved my life several times)

Anyway, the spell i still would most love to see some day is Lutzaen's frequent jaunt! (5th level, Dimension door 1/round) as you would be able to use it tactically even if it did have the current short range.

Larloch supposedly used something like that to get around. Probably a spell he created himself mind you...

[thaelis]

Oh, and Seheren's has a point...no one has said yet, is the spell actually at max range already? If it's limit is your perception range is there a way to boost your perception range?

[Thief Of Navarre]

Oh, and Seheren's has a point...no one has said yet, is the spell actually at max range already? If it's limit is your perception range is there a way to boost your perception range?

Perception range is more than likely line of sight + the fog of war. You can roleplay having a high spot or racially granted occular powers but I think its a game limitation as far as spells and abilities go.

[DM_Acorn]

He was referring to a melee situation by using a clever Monopoly (tm) analogy.

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