New PrCs

[Mournas]

Even though I consider PrCs to be a little OP at time I still enjoy using them cause in a video game you a limited greatly by your characters effectiveness and efficiency; at least to the majority of fighting and killing and non DM events.

I am also unsure how hard it is to code for new PrCs but I was wondering if Sundren will ever see an increase in the amount of PrCs. Some base classes are lacking in PrCs such as: Druid, Monk, Bard, Barbarian, and Spirit Shaman. Of course there are quite a few PrCs that COULD be taken by these classes if you go and count them all up of what could Technically be used. However Druids have One PRC that can be used without DM permission and set faction restrictions. This is Master of Radiance, granted the PrC is pretty slick and adds a good amount of undead slaying power to your repertoire.

It would be nice to see certain classes get a bump to the arsenal of PrCs that they can choose. If the staff has no one capable of working on PrCs at the time then that is understandable. As is the PrC list is by no means skeletal or a crap selection. It is just my opinion that some classes are lacking in variety and others are abundant.

[Doubtful]

PRCs may be added in the future but the focus will be on those classes that tie into the server and faction lore.

[GodBeastX]

And by the future, that probably means after everything else

[Thief Of Navarre]

To be fair Druids have Icefury, Master of many forms, Nature's warrior, master of radiance, combat medic, warpriest, Stormlord, Sacred fist, mage killer and IF your willing to multiclass you can be a mystic theurge as well. Thats possibly the longest PrC list of any single base class.
I do agree that bards could use a PrC that advances their bardic music or general class direction (Cloaked Dancer, Seeker of the Song, Sublime Chord, Virtuoso, Warchanter e.t.c.). I particularly like the sublime chord because it gives your bard higher spell levels making him effective at higher levels where the regular bard's abilities dont tend to shine as bright.

[Mournas]

MoMF = Busted and so is Natures Warrior. Combat Medic and WarPriest do not make good sense for Druids. Also just giving them classes that they CAN prc to is not the point. They COULD go Weapon Master Also. The point is PRCs that aren't restricted by faction and that actually make sense for the characters, and or with Stacking Abilities. Sacred Fist is okayish and can make some sense as a druid. Though as the staff said it will be a much later update.

[Thief Of Navarre]

Warpriest aint that bad for a druid as long as you have access to druid proof armour. At least they dont have to dip into cross class skills like clerics do ~ That really sucks!

I bet they make kickass Icefuries

[Chiangtao]

I think Nature's Warrior is pretty good as it is actually. It's the soft level limit of 20 that makes it seem stinky. Those elemental shape bonuses are very, very good though.

[Mournas]

I think Nature's Warrior is pretty good as it is actually. It's the soft level limit of 20 that makes it seem stinky. Those elemental shape bonuses are very, very good though.

Thats the problem. Their Shaping abilities don't stack with Druid Shaping abilities. Hence why the class is busted. To go 15Druid 5Nature Warrior you would have to get epic level just to get elemental shapes.

Yes Warpriest and Ice Furies are good for melee focused druids. Not so much for those who want to be a full caster.

[Mournas]

I was also thinking since there is the introduction of Noble houses, maybe have like a Noble PrC, one that deals in diplomatic negotiations etc and all the more subtle ... but less reputable ways. Would be cool to see some political intrigue within Sundren.

[Thief Of Navarre]

I was also thinking since there is the introduction of Noble houses, maybe have like a Noble PrC, one that deals in diplomatic negotiations etc and all the more subtle ... but less reputable ways. Would be cool to see some political intrigue within Sundren.

You could have one that works along with some of the stuff we have on sundren that few people use like diversion (apart from paladins), aid attack and defense and demoralise. an Orator prc perhaps
Im sure there must be something in the books like that we could use!

[Doubtful]

I want to go into a big rant about how shitty class based RPG systems are and how much better loose-class (WHFRPs Career system or Chaosisms BRP babies, of which I am seriously loving the Laundry RPG) or skill based systems.

Pretty pointless though, given NWN/D&D is wot we got.

Dark Lantern (for all your Bondish needs), Merchant Prince, Umm.. Emissary of Barachiel (if you ignore the fact it isn't an FR class)..

Le Sigh...

D&D really isn't that hot on PRCs for talky people.

[Mournas]

I want to go into a big rant about how shitty class based RPG systems are and how much better loose-class (WHFRPs Career system or Chaosisms BRP babies, of which I am seriously loving the Laundry RPG) or skill based systems.

Pretty pointless though, given NWN/D&D is wot we got.

Dark Lantern (for all your Bondish needs), Merchant Prince, Umm.. Emissary of Barachiel (if you ignore the fact it isn't an FR class)..

Le Sigh...

D&D really isn't that hot on PRCs for talky people.

Aye, I agree though to be honest you can make a pretty decent character out of the right classes with a huge Bluff, Diplo, Gather Info etc and the right feats. I was just thinking of someone who could just bluff their eyes out even with discern lies on ^_^