Persistent Spell Do-Over

[Cornuto]

lol brambles does need to be taken off the list.

if I see another cleric/FS not using their deity's favored weapon in favor of a club... *nerd rages*

I don't even understand why Clerics and FS get brambles to begin with.

[Machiavelli]

I don't even understand why Clerics and FS get brambles to begin with.

All gods love brambles, and want their followers to prick people with them. Or at least that's what I'd always assumed.

[Kaeldorn]

EDIT:
Nevermind, I was looking at the wrong column.

Yes, Brambles should definitely lose persistent spell.

[roguethree]

I can see the argument for that, and I'd also offer up brambles (lol +10 damage) and Holy sword (just fix the persistent bug) for the chopping block.

Agree on Brambles.

Bringing Holy Sword (+5 eb v. evil for 7-10 rounds, 2d6 dmg v. evil until you unequip, so it's not cast until combat, anyway) down is only going to further limit the paladins that aren't me, but if we've got to take from the bottom end to reign in the top, then so be it.

Persistent Haste would make running dungeons hella easy.

[Kaeldorn]

The thing with Holy Sword and Bless Weapon is that the application and removal of effects is hardcoded. The item properties applied are non-standard. This means that the spells can't be fixed, only removed entirely.

[Lilene Jora]

Know it's off topic but...why is brambles even in the game? I mean, it basically makes the lowly club the single best cleric weapon in the game, especially with impact, and GMW tossed in for spice. And +10 to anything for whatever low level spell slot it occupies (3?) is pretty absurd.

[Kaizen]

Know it's off topic but...why is brambles even in the game? I mean, it basically makes the lowly club the single best cleric weapon in the game, especially with impact, and GMW tossed in for spice. And +10 to anything for whatever low level spell slot it occupies (3?) is pretty absurd.

I assume its in the game because Druids have a +4 str and 1d8 flame as our only combat buff (sans shapeshifting).

But yeah, it's pretty whack.

[Doubtful]

lol brambles does need to be taken off the list.

if I see another cleric/FS not using their deity's favored weapon in favor of a club... *nerd rages*

Add to that - If I see another Icefury with a flaming weapon... *nerdrage/blockdivine*

[Raksha]

...wait. You mean I've been missing out on Brambles goodness because I think swords look cool?

All this time?

*tear.*

In general, I'm more in favor of 'cooler stuff for other classes' as opposed to 'take toys away from the powerful ones.' Especially since it's been repeatedly stated that the item balance on the server is going to be shifted (though have heard that one for a few years now! Please don't smite me, devs). The only real change I see for this is a heavier emphasis towards burst damage as opposed to sustained damage for high-level divine casters, thus meaning that once battletide goes up, conversation stops.

[Intrepid42]

I'm quite comfortable with losing persistent Divine Favor.

If persistent Prayer goes, so be it. However, Prayer is a group buff like Bless and Recitation. The list of spells that help those other than the cleric and fully stack with other effects is not long. I would rather it be made so it affects party members but not the caster, rather than lose persist.

[Dragor]

@Doubt

We really need a cold dmg sword spell for that...

@Anyone who thinks Haste should be persistable

I think this is a holdover from the rage against EK's (that it isnt persistable) as most EK's can get the full four/seven attacks per round they could garner another unfair advantage with haste giving them +1

[Darkened Skies]

Spell changing is high on the staff priority list right now, and we're actually having a discussion about this already. Watch this space, there's been a lot of helpful input from you all, many thanks