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I'd agree with you all if it wasn't for these facts that imbalance things in favor of the detector widespread.
- Detection Spells are level 1 so even noob wizards can cast them
- Nondetect is level 3 so people have levels they have to gain to guard themselves
- People without detection can rely on others to spread word that someone is Evil/Undead/etc.
- People without nondetect are ass out.
- Person being detected only has one shot to stay hidden and then that's it for them. Once you're found out people are going to spread it.
- There's other methods of detecting undead even WITH non-detection. Turning. Mass Healing Spells. Etc etc.
- There's not multiple ways to hide what you are other than not being present.
So while I appreciate people's feelings on the matter. I don't think a permanent item shuts down RP value. Not to mention, as a fun paladin found out yesterday, there's other uses for the Detect spell outside of PVP.
But just because the items exist doesn't mean everyone can just go to the hardware store and buy them. I didn't talk about availability at all. People might find they may never see one. Or maybe I will just put them all over.
Overall I think it's pretty obvious those LOOKING for undead have the advantage of finding them versus those hiding from being sought.
One thing a player for good once told me way back in NWN1, he gained the most intel on evil just standing around quietly listening and saying nothing. Given enough time every evil person incriminated themselves in some way. It was pretty funny once he connected the dots for me. I honestly think this will be a non-issue.
- Detection Spells are level 1 so even noob wizards can cast them
- Nondetect is level 3 so people have levels they have to gain to guard themselves
- People without detection can rely on others to spread word that someone is Evil/Undead/etc.
- People without nondetect are ass out.
- Person being detected only has one shot to stay hidden and then that's it for them. Once you're found out people are going to spread it.
- There's other methods of detecting undead even WITH non-detection. Turning. Mass Healing Spells. Etc etc.
- There's not multiple ways to hide what you are other than not being present.
So while I appreciate people's feelings on the matter. I don't think a permanent item shuts down RP value. Not to mention, as a fun paladin found out yesterday, there's other uses for the Detect spell outside of PVP.
But just because the items exist doesn't mean everyone can just go to the hardware store and buy them. I didn't talk about availability at all. People might find they may never see one. Or maybe I will just put them all over.
Overall I think it's pretty obvious those LOOKING for undead have the advantage of finding them versus those hiding from being sought.
One thing a player for good once told me way back in NWN1, he gained the most intel on evil just standing around quietly listening and saying nothing. Given enough time every evil person incriminated themselves in some way. It was pretty funny once he connected the dots for me. I honestly think this will be a non-issue.
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