Greater Dispel Magic

[Thief Of Navarre]

Well frenzied berserkers rely on nothing really, they have DR cause of their barbarian levels, they have tons of hitpoints and they have power attack that makes a maximised extended creeping doom look like nappy rash.

[roguethree]

That's all true except for the part where they don't rely on gear. All melee classes rely on gear, even paladins.

[gbbishop]

and that you can't apply two metamagics to one spell in NWN....

[Thief Of Navarre]

and that you can't apply two metamagics to one spell in NWN....

I was being facetious, as is my way!

[Talleyman99]

I ment more the strip away all magical effects part not check.... not the break fighters eq part for mords.

[Urithrand]

Back on topic with the greater dispellings

If we were going to implement something like this, it might only be fair to implement more feats and / or items which help the person to resist dispellings. As it is the only thing we have is SR or Spell Girding.

[Lothoir]

Spell Resistance doesn't help against dispelling.

Personally, I think adding in Spell Focus: Abjuration and Arcane Defense: Abjuration should give you a bonus to your Dispel Check and Dispel Resistance DC. It's certainly not by the books, but I think it's a neat idea.

[Thief Of Navarre]

Spell Resistance doesn't help against dispelling.

Personally, I think adding in Spell Focus: Abjuration and Arcane Defense: Abjuration should give you a bonus to your Dispel Check and Dispel Resistance DC. It's certainly not by the books, but I think it's a neat idea.

Its a good idea, I like! But on the other hand its also another suggestion and more work involved presumably.

[GholaMan]

or increase greater dispelling from +15 to +20 and make disjunction like +25 and the ability to get rid of multiple buffs.

[Lothoir]

Disjunction is currently uncapped. Talleyman's suggestion is to replace the uncapped version with one that would auto dispel everything on the target.

[Talleyman99]

Ok My real thoughts on this. Dont change a darn thing. Mords is good being the uncapped more powerfull check. As It makes a check and balance Vs. Clerics (they dont get no mords) as well as other wizardly types. Giving Greater Dispell more power puts more power into the hands of Clerical types. And well we all know how most people on the server feel about that. Also Mords is a 9th lvl spell it cost money to cast. Greater Dispell 6th lvl spell is free to cast. Now If this server ran into the epics more then lvl 21 you see from time to time then I'd be froe greater Dispell going to 20 and leaving mords alone as Mords would still be needed vs. the higher lvl casters.

[Lothoir]

I'd like to bring this back up. Increasing the maximum caster cap on Greater Dispel from +15 to +20 will make casters more powerful, yes. But more powerful against whom? The Dispel line is entirely anti-caster and does absolutely nothing against fighters/rogues/barbarians, in fact it empowers those classes by making it more likely that a wizard or cleric will have their buffs shredded during a fight, making them easy prey for the warrior or assassin that doesn't have to worry about their Living Undeath or Mirror Image.

[Cornuto]

IMO its still a buff to divine casters which don't really need it.