Greater Dispel Magic

[Lothoir]

In NWN2, Greater Dispel Magic has a maximum caster level bonus of +15. In PnP the maximum bonus is +20. Could it be increased on Sundren to cap out at +20 instead of +15? This would benefit druids, clerics and bards that don't have access to Disjunction.

[Talleyman99]

Mords is the 20+ dispell in nwn2 but yes lets change greater dispell to that and make mords work like it should

[TheBlankStare]

I'm thinking that's a bit tongue in cheek there, Talley, but actually it's a good idea. A way to destroy artifacts is kind of needed and that PnP spell would do the trick (though not without some risk attached). Thumbs up!

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magesDisjunction.htm

[Darkened Skies]

In NWN2, Greater Dispel Magic has a maximum caster level bonus of +15. In PnP the maximum bonus is +20. Could it be increased on Sundren to cap out at +20 instead of +15? This would benefit druids, clerics and bards that don't have access to Disjunction.

Yes, because what we need is to make clerics more powerful

[Fezzik]

If we made Mords more like it should be, isn't there a good chance some or all of you magic items would loose all their properties... not to mention the whole artifact destruction - summon god thing?

[Kaeldorn]

Destroying their hard-earned items would definitely be the number 1 way to smack non-magic classes in the face even more...

Mord's destroying items is not going to happen. The rust monsters were taken out for the same reason; losing items without a DM being present to ensure it stays fun for all = bad.

[Lilene Jora]

*Cackles maniacally as the only 20 monk on the server where everyone has mord's one another until no magic items remain.*

[roguethree]

*has Holy Sword and doesn't afraid of anything*

[GodBeastX]

I think some items could be flagged destroyable by morde's. I agree that hard earned items being destroyed sucks, but nothing wrong with using it to destroy prenoted items that aren't so hard earned.

[Kaeldorn]

*has Holy Sword and doesn't afraid of anything*

Three cheers for the Holy Sword bug.

[Urithrand]

Still seems like a step in the wrong direction in the casters vs melee argument :/

[TakenByTheStormX]

Without the holy sword bug, the paladin class would be useless

[roguethree]

Still seems like a step in the wrong direction in the casters vs melee argument :/

You're absolutely right. Destroying magical equipment only hurts melee classes.

/disapprove of that sort of change to Mord's.

[Lothoir]

Still seems like a step in the wrong direction in the casters vs melee argument :/

It would only undermine wizards, who are currently top dog in dispelling. And I don't see it helping clerics out that terribly much simply because most clerics I know of on Sundren are not pure clerics because 2 levels of fighter is far more attractive when you hit 18. This would primarily help bards and druids, more than anyone.

And then of course there is the fact that a Greater Dispel on a Weapon Master or Frenzied Berserker won't do much of anything, if anything it gives fighters a greater wealth of allies capable of dispelling the big bad cleric's buffs.

EDIT: Oh, Mords. Yes, destroying equipment would suck big time. I'm referring to just a caster level cap increase to Greater Dispel.

[Kaeldorn]

Lothoir, people were commenting on the suggestion to make Mord's destroy items. It would hit Weapon Masters and FB's the hardest, because they depend on their items the most.