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    I tried making a Talos priest the other day.

    Talos being the well-known God of storms, destructions, and insane rage.

    I couldn't take Air or Fury domains.

    Air as a domain does little but give access to two spells: Call Lightning and Chain Lightning. Two spells no Talassan priest should be without.

    The Fury domain was less important to the character, but from what I can tell, it's not available on any God. Garagos, Talos, Tempus, Gruumsh and such could probably use it.

    As it is, in any case, it seems somewhat pointless making a Talos priest whose domains are Fire and Chaos, and lacks the ability to call down lightning storms to sacrifice innocents and such.
    Running across the mountains, attacking with an oversized scalpel, cometh Helga Great-Wyrm! And she gives a mighty bellow:
    "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! You are made of meat and I am very hungry!"

  • #2
    As far as the Fury domain goes, it's not a canon PnP domain at all. It was included in the game only as a domain of Auril, for some reason I cannot fathom. I'd agree that the Fury deities should be able to take the domain simply because....well, they're the deities of fury. This includes Talos, Umberlee, Auril, and Malar. As for Air domain, I'd be less likely to agree with.

    This is because Talos is the god of storms, yes. But from what I can gather, he is more general in the havoc and destruction that he brings. This includes eathquakes, fires, and other natural disasters. So I'd be less inclined to hand him the domain, but that's only my opinion.

    My suggestion to this topic would be perhaps to remove the fire domain and add the fury domain, since there is a certain number of domains that should be allowed per god. If Talos doesn't get the air domain, I fail to see why he should get the fire one if he is the general god of natural disasters and the like.

    Anyway, my two cents.
    Characters:
    Peridan Twilight, one-eyed dog of the Legion, deceased.
    Daniel Nobody, adventurer and part time problem solver.

    [DM] Poltergeist :
    If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge an intermediate deity's unbridled fury.

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    • #3
      The fire domain is straight from the FR setting.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Peridan View Post
        As for Air domain, I'd be less likely to agree with.

        This is because Talos is the god of storms, yes. But from what I can gather, he is more general in the havoc and destruction that he brings. This includes eathquakes, fires, and other natural disasters. So I'd be less inclined to hand him the domain, but that's only my opinion.
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        I think you're missing the bigger picture.

        This is Talos. The Stormlord. His symbol is three lightning bolts. Yes he's also the God of natural disaster, but his primary gig is storms. He sponsors the Stormlord prestige class.

        One of his two main ceremonies is as follows:

        • Calling Down the Thunder – This ritual involves the sacrifice of an intelligent being by lightning.

        Hence why I intended to take the Air domain, so that I'd be able to call down this lightning for various sacrifice of intelligent beings. I can hardly Call Down the Thunder with the Fire and Chaos domains.

        The PnP Storms domain isn't available in NWN2. If it was, I'd take that and be happy. Given that the Air domain practically gives you two lightning-based spells, it seems that would be a more than apt replacement
        Running across the mountains, attacking with an oversized scalpel, cometh Helga Great-Wyrm! And she gives a mighty bellow:
        "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! You are made of meat and I am very hungry!"

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        • #5
          I am a HUGE fan of the furies,especially Talos.I agree with you about being able to take the Air domain due to the spells it provides.I have always thought that something was just wrong with the fact that the talassan can pick fire and not air..I also would have thought the Fury domain would have fit there too..Personally in my own opinon,someone who wanted to play a talassan priest should be able to pick from the fury,air,chaos,destruction,and fire domains.

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          • #6
            i lol@stormlords and talos.

            whhhhaaaaat a joke.
            Originally posted by ThePaganKing
            So, the roguethree bootlickers strike again.

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            • #7
              Gonna have to side with the logic that a storm god's spell offerings should respect storms. Yeah it just makes sense that way.

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              • #8
                Forgive me then, but my view on the matter differed slightly. I view Talos as a destructive, chaotic being that may prefer to use lightning, but can just as easily fulfill his dogma through other elemental means. But if that single spell is so important, perhaps it can be added another way? Clerics do have a high level storm spell as is, and if you wanted to be a devotee of Talos, then perhaps you should consider going the druid route. There seems to be a lack of such anyway, and you would fit in far better with the Wrath and it's goals which frequently cater to Talos and his agenda.

                Druids seem to be more of the 'in tune' sorts with elemental forces of nature, while clerics have a preset spell list that caters to more general abilities. Instead of changing the domains, I'd perhaps leave them as is (with the exception of the Fury Domain). If it is that large of an issue, I'm sure the devs will decide on what to do.

                But again, this is only my own personal picture. I may very well be missing the true, and larger one.
                Characters:
                Peridan Twilight, one-eyed dog of the Legion, deceased.
                Daniel Nobody, adventurer and part time problem solver.

                [DM] Poltergeist :
                If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge an intermediate deity's unbridled fury.

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                • #9
                  My point is that in PnP, Talos Clerics have access to the Storms domain, which gives them all their lightning-flavoured fun. A majority of his Clerics would take this domain.

                  In NWN, there is an absense of the Storms domain, it's function being filled by the Air domain. However, since Air is not an official Talos domain, it's not allowed to be taken by a Talossan.

                  End result being that Talos clerics can't get their lightning flavoured fun.
                  Running across the mountains, attacking with an oversized scalpel, cometh Helga Great-Wyrm! And she gives a mighty bellow:
                  "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! You are made of meat and I am very hungry!"

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                  • #10
                    Fury domain is the old war domain. It was renamed when Obsidian put a more "Correct" war domain in. You're fighting an uphill battle if you ask for this one.

                    Air is Air domain, it won't be given to Talos simply because the spells make sense, this doesn't mean we may not implement the missing domain Storm in the future.

                    Also fire is part of Talos' domains in canon. This is because he is also the god of Conflagrations (EXPLOSIONS OF FIRE BABY).

                    We're looking to be more correct, not shoe-horning

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                    • #11
                      Heck, if you're willing to look to Implement Storms as a domain, then that's much better. I just suggested the easier alternative, since I don't like to ask for much.

                      I personally can't imagine playing a Talos priest without having access to lightning, so he's on the backburner for now.
                      Running across the mountains, attacking with an oversized scalpel, cometh Helga Great-Wyrm! And she gives a mighty bellow:
                      "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! You are made of meat and I am very hungry!"

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                      • #12
                        The reason I say not to give air is mainly because if we in the future go and update Air to be more P&P correct, it ends up less Talos-like. THen we have all these talos priests with air and we have to fix them which is a bigger pain than anything.

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                        • #13
                          Hmm, I just checked the Fury domain, and I think it's fair to suggest it's not quite put in in it's current form.

                          I just dread to think what monstrosity combining Divine Power and a high-caster-level Tensers Transformation would produce along with the other Cleric power.

                          AB of 150%, anyone?

                          Coupled with all your ridiculous GMW, Divine Favour, and all that jazz.
                          Running across the mountains, attacking with an oversized scalpel, cometh Helga Great-Wyrm! And she gives a mighty bellow:
                          "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! You are made of meat and I am very hungry!"

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