Rep Point Trickle

[Bishop Cornelius]

With the RP-exp, perhaps having Reputation trickle via time spent in Sundren would be a good thing...

Perhaps at a rate of 1 rep point per every 30 rp xp...

those in factions would have their Rep go to their own factions, and those not in a faction would be able to trickle directly into sundren... (or if you don't want them to be able to apply those points to legion/red blade/etc careers, then have unaligned trickle into sundren commoner since it's there :P

[Fezzik]

I don't see this working under the current system. There are still people out there that sit on a char and just WHAMMO get their levels as fast as possible (some people might call that... what... grinding? ). Anyway, those that do most of their leveling with just the trickles, might not be actually doing anything productive with their time, and might, in fact, be doing something detrimental to their faction with their time (ex. A soldier beating up anyone that crosses the street, or a Banite giving out flowers and cookies to whoever might be passing by).

And as for going directly to Sundren for non-faction people, what if they go into a faction then later that is directly apposed to Sundren?).

Anyway, just my opinion

[Saulus]

Absolutely no way this will ever happen. Faction rep will never be so easily come by in such a lax manner.

[nezzerscape]

I understand the reasoning behind the point trickle. And perhaps I have missed most (all) events that provide Rep points, gut they are hard to come by. I could just spend my days in the virindale capturing flags but that seems as though it goes against the concept.

How many events would one need to attend to gain any rank in there faction (based on 1000)? When was the last Exigo event? and the one previous? I could collect all the flags and barley hit 300.

I know toons that have been a member of a faction for a fairly long period of time and there as still only initiates.

I'm not sure the best approach to award / gain Rep points, but if a player feels that they are really unattainable then there worthless for no one seek to gain them. At that point what is the purpose for factions if players do not really care?

Yes this is a BIG stretch but I want to illustrate the importance of gaining rep point can be to a player.

Wh

[BedlamX]

Lately, it does seem that faction point events are few and far between (at least for the couple of factions I have toons in). I have taken to grinding banners to try and reach new faction milestone marks (although it seems Thayan Knights are forever "Apprentices" :P). It would be nice to have a way to gain faction points for doing...um..."factiony" stuff. Problem is, unless a DM wants to oversee a faction event for 1 or 2 players while 15-20 others go without the attention, it just doesn't seem possible now. There are rarely more than a couple people in any given faction on at any given time (at least when I log in). And the smaller factions can go days without a member logging in (or any more than 1 at a time).

I don't really like the trickle faction points too much. I see people staying logged in and doing nothing just to get the points built up (kinda like some do with the xp tic now). And the scripting involved for more auto quests involving faction point rewards would be a pain. With all the new DMs that have joined the staff, hopefully we will get some more faction point events. It would be possible to have more than one faction involved (coop or competing) in the same event and hit multiple factions at a time.

No real solution ideas here...just rambling.


But I'm gettin old, so I'm supposed to do that :P

[Phantom Lamb]

We're always seeking new ways to gain faction rep for you. We needed to wrap up base tasks for factions (join quests, faction stores, faction IDs, UI, etc.) before we gave more ways to gain rep.

Donation boxes will come soon, but will have limited use in gaining rep. We'll keep adding things as we think of them, but the trickle rep idea is out. Sorry folks

[Doubtful]

Rather than waiting for the DMs to come up with and run an event based around your faction, there is always the option of trying to push your faction in a direction.

There are plenty of events going on that don't revolve around factions, that's true - But how can you bring your faction aims into it?

Looking at the current character requests there are only a few people who are pushing their factions in any given direction, and strangely enough these are the same people who've managed to collect a lot of faction points and develop their ideas - anyone can do this.

So, get folk together, think about what's going on on the server and how your character can use that to further their faction. Don't just sit and wait for rep points to come to you. Be pro-active.

*lights touch paper and flees*

[TyrannyOfDistance]

Be... bro-active. *Fist bump.*

[Lanemeyer]

I think there is a good way to add a huge amount of rep sometimes, when you DMs who knows someone who is in a faction and plays for a long time. It might be an option.

It's being hard to get rep indeed.

[cdnspr]

i think there's a bit much focus on faction-events. they seem kinda exclusive anyway.

why not just represent your faction's interest in generic events? find a way your faction can benefit from whatever's happening, and exploit it.

[Kaizen]

i think there's a bit much focus on faction-events. they seem kinda exclusive anyway.

why not just represent your faction's interest in generic events? find a way your faction can benefit from whatever's happening, and exploit it.

I like this, and I do this quite often. However, more often then not, the whole group of members involved end up getting the same rep points for the same faction - even if their goals and who they're working for is different.

IE: Druids getting 1000 'Sundren' Rep for helping killing the Banite General - even if the reason they did it was because of orders from the Wardens. In this case, I feel as though the 1k rep should go to whatever faction you are representing, because you achieve their goals ... helping 'Sundren' just happened to be there.

Same thing with my Merc ... I feel as though he should get blackwater rep when he is hired to do something - even if that something is helping slay a mighty demon with Triumvirate members .... he didn't do it for the Three, or for righteousness or whatever - he did it for the money, and to give his Mercenary Company a better name.

Buuuuuut I coud be way off base.

[Fezzik]

I would suggest that if you're working, for example, Toyota, even if you're asked to help by your employer General Motors to help them with their <i>problems</i> and you succeed in clearing them up... it isn't General Motors that is going to be very very happy that you managed to solve the problem, it's Toyota.

Not that I'm using this particular example for any particular reason, but I think it rings true . It's who your working with/for that should give you the rep... at least the lions share of it.

[cdnspr]

i can see both sides to the above two comments being right. how about rep points for both? (or splitting them between the two)

[nezzerscape]

It is hard some times to decide "who you are working for" as well as time consuming (and a hassle) for a DM to know where you want your points to go and determine if the individual actually represented there faction accordingly. To be realistic one would have to look at the individuals actions and give both + and - rep points depending on the task. Kill a banite then get - for that rep faction and + for their faction providing that their faction wants banites to be killed.

It can go on and on making if very hard to have rep point handed out appropriately. Different amounts should be handed out to different players; did they just tag a long? did they push their faction's objectives?...

So once again I do not know the most feasible approach to this only that I think that they are sparse and often put in factions that are not beneficial (and thus may discourage one from participating).

Just some more of my thoughts...

Nez

[Fezzik]

To be realistic one would have to look at the individuals actions and give both + and - rep points depending on the task. Kill a banite then get - for that rep faction and + for their faction providing that their faction wants banites to be killed

Nez

I really really like this idea. I think it might spark a little more PvP too. If there is a reward for whacking an enemy off, it might make it a little more worth the risk of getting your own ass handed to you. I think it could be a reward depending on the other persons faction rating though. If you kill a complete newb to a faction (just joined and has 1000 rep) then maybe it could be 10 rep for you... but if you kill someone really important (say 15000 rep) then you get 150 rep for smiting them?


ps. I've also seen a dm reward someone 100 points for doing what they were supposed to and being all in line with the faction, and another person, not to mention any drunk elf's name (but it starts with R and sounds like Ooo-a-mel), loose points for stumbling along and making the whole organization look bad