Spell saves

[Sammael]

Does anyone know what the equation is for saves against a Sorceror's spells in nwn2?

I know that in nwn1 it was -something- like:

Half caster's charisma value + spell level + modifications from feats etc VS target's fortitude/reflex save

Is that how it works in nwn2? anyone know if it's changed?

[Saulus]

Moved to NWN2 General discussion.

[Kaldaris]

Does anyone know what the equation is for saves against a Sorceror's spells in nwn2?

I know that in nwn1 it was -something- like:

Half caster's charisma value + spell level + modifications from feats etc VS target's fortitude/reflex save

Is that how it works in nwn2? anyone know if it's changed?

10 + Spell Level + Charisma Modifier

16 Cha (+3) Sorcerer casts Burning Hands (1st Tier)

10 + 1 + 3 = DC 14 Reflex save for Half.

Save is vs. Whatever the spell says it's against.

[deepshades]

10 + Spell Level + Charisma Modifier

16 Cha (+3) Sorcerer casts Burning Hands (1st Tier)

10 + 1 + 3 = DC 14 Reflex save for Half.

Save is vs. Whatever the spell says it's against.

10 + ((Murderous intent of Sylloven 1-9 scale)) + ((How styling she looks while she kills you))

10 + 9 + 8 + 2 (Spellcasting Prodigy) = Your ass blowing up XD

[Tildryn]

10 Base + Spell Level + Primary Attribute Bonus + Feats

Spellcasting Prodigy is a +1 DC deepshades, since it's an effective +2 to attribute, which equates to a +1 bonus.

Spell Focus is +1, Greater Spell Focus is +2, Epic Spell Focus is +3.

[Kaldaris]

I didn't include the feats because the feats state specifically what they do, whereas Spell Formulas aren't in a more conspicuous place.

[Sammael]

That makes much more sense, thanks.

A second question; if a sorceror were to take Arcane Scholar as a prestige class, would Charisma remain the modifying attribute, or does it switch to Intelligence?

[Feydakin]

charisma would remain the modifying attribute.

[Sammael]

Thanks!

[rustediron]

Sammael? Arcane scholar? looks much more like pale material to me

[deepshades]

10 Base + Spell Level + Primary Attribute Bonus + Feats

Spellcasting Prodigy is a +1 DC deepshades, since it's an effective +2 to attribute, which equates to a +1 bonus.

Spell Focus is +1, Greater Spell Focus is +2, Epic Spell Focus is +3.

Oh dear! I told my joke wrong! . . .
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[Sammael]

Sammael? Arcane scholar? looks much more like pale material to me

No chance. Loathes the undead, for background reasons

[Blue_Wyrm]

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[Sammael]

Lawl.

Just thought of another question actually (sorry!). What's the max bonus you can get from Charisma? Back in nwn1, there was a hard cap on the bonus of 16 (from having 42 charisma; you could get more charisma after that if you really wanted but the bonus remained 16). Obviously you can't get 42 charisma in Nwn2, not until they release the next expansion anyway, but does anyone know what the hard cap is in Nwn2?

[Satoshi]

Hard-cap is technically +20 (at maxed stat of 50), but good luck getting there. The best I can manage to swing with a legit character is a 46 intelligence on a sun elf (Namely, the OC/MotB Eirimil). GO GO.