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  • #1

    Starting Languages

    Starting languages on Sundren are extremely limited. Elves and Dwarves only get 6 choices, meaning if you were an Elf with Int 20 you would know exactly the same languages as every other Elf with Int 20, which doesn't seem very believable or conducive to RP.

    I'd suggest opening it up a bit. I'm not suggesting allowing the exotic languages like Abyssal to be learnt by all, but at least the languages of the 'goodly' races Dwarven, Elven, Halfling & Gnome be available to all.

    I've seen on some servers they allow you to start at level 1 knowing Abyssal, Infernal, Celestial, Draconic and Ancient Netherese already. I don't think that is really necessary but maybe there's a middle ground?
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    Everyone should know Abyssal. It will make your coming subjugation more pleasant. Suggestion noted.
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    • #3
      IIRC, classes unlock more languages. Wizards and arcane asters I think can start with planar languages, and clerics can get celestial, infernal, abyssal, etc.

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      • #4
        I didn't realize that! That makes sense and it isn't as bad as I thought. Then only Wizards of the same race will all know the same languages etc. I still think it'd be nice to include all intelligent races for more variety.

        Also could change the name of Decipher Script to Linguistics and have it grant a bonus language for every 2 points or somesuch (in PnP it's one bonus language per point but that seems excessive)
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        • #5
          Decipher Script is actually a skill with mechanical use in the crafting system, as it is used to decrypt Cryptic Notes that are located as monster drops.

          Frazer Mfg. is a department of Frazer Fabrications, focused on the construction of high-end custom-crafted equipment and gear.
          Also part of Frazer Fabrications are:
          Frazer Armories - focused on resale of prefabricated arms and armorments;
          Frazer Merchantile - specialising in economic analysis and scaleable logistics; and
          Frazer Laboratories - the leading independent R&D for sundrite theory, arcane and mechanical engineering

          James Frazer: Anthropological Gearhead, Techsmith, Arcanaphysisist, Renown Proprietor
          AKA: Artifax Grade B Exigo Corporation Syndicated Associate VP, Professor, Quartermaster of the Schild Whurest-ExiCorp Joint-Operations Facility, and 'Annoying Mechanist'
          Theme: Stil Alive

          Grid vs. Squeegle, not Good vs. Evil

          Distances and travel-times for the Sunderian Peninsula:Free Version 1.0

          Crafting changes are a dead-horse topic, but feel free to ask me about crafting: If I can't answer it, I bet I can direct you to someone who can.
          To those who are interested in making or have crafting-oriented characters, please check out the Fabricator's Collective and how to get FC-certified.
          crafting tutorial.

          Unfortunate truths:
          Intention: [DM > Crafting > Faction Store > Drop > Regular Store]
          Reality: [DM > Faction Store > Drop > Regular Store> Crafting]

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          • #6
            These are the Forgotten Realms starting bonus languages for Elf/Dwarf. Would really be awesome if we could get these in game. I think it would make the subraces somewhat more distinct.

            Moon Elves
            Automatic Languages: Elven, Common, home region. Bonus Languages: Auran, Chondathan, Gnoll, Gnome, Halfling, Illuskan, Sylvan.

            Sun Elves
            Automatic Languages: Elven, Common, home region. Bonus Languages: Auran, Celestial, Chondathan, Gnome, Halfling, Illuskan, Sylvan.

            Wild Elves
            Automatic Languages: Elven, Common, home region. Bonus Languages: Gnoll, Illuskan, Orc, Sylvan, Tashalan.

            Wood Elves
            Automatic Languages: Elven, Common, home region. Bonus Languages: Chondathan, Draconic, Gnome, Goblin, Gnoll, Sylvan.

            Gold Dwarves
            Automatic Languages: Dwarven, Common, home region.
            Bonus Languages: Giant, Gnome, Goblin, Shaaran, Terran, Untheric.

            Shield Dwarves
            Automatic Languages: Dwarven, Common, home region.
            Bonus Languages: Chondathan, Draconic, Giant, Goblin, Illuskan, Orc.

            And yes Kit I realize Decipher Script already has a use in game. I was mainly suggesting changing its name to Linguistics, since that's the Pathfinder skill with the same function (plus more).
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